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#256 Sloth

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:01 PM

1) no, if you can read i said, 4th quarter COMEBACKS. not leads that the defense held on to. 

 

2) yes people from the south are dumb. theres a reason stereotypes stick. not saying there arent smart people from the south, but in general, it's actually pretty embarrassing.

 

I've lived in 5 states to date. I can't speak for the others, but you'd probably qualify for TBI/developmental disability services here in NM.



#257 XClown1986

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:01 PM

I'd be lying if I said we shouldn't be concerned about Cam. I'm not seeing improvement like a 3rd year QB should have. Offensive line or not. Stafford, Rodgers, and Luck have garbage O-lines too. They make do.



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:01 PM

hey guys people from the south are stupid hur dur

 

please don't go back a few pages where i read "luke" as "luck" and then trolled and shitposted to try to get people to not notice it



#259 MuMouey

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:01 PM

So let me get this straight, the argument you all are making is that if Cam had a:

 

1) great coach

2) great OLine

3) great defense

4) great playcalling

 

....then he would be as good as Luck? lmao. man, way to put 0.0% of responsibility on the guy that touches the ball 75 times per game



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:02 PM

So let me get this straight, the argument you all are making is that if Cam had a:

 

1) great coach

2) great OLine

3) great defense

4) great playcalling

 

....then he would be as good as Luck? lmao. man, way to put 0.0% of responsibility on the guy that touches the ball 75 times per game

 

hey you spelled luck wrong dummy

 

i believe the word you were looking for is "luke"



#261 TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:03 PM

seriously though Cam has had like 10 wins blown by our defense in last minute drive situations. We never hold on



#262 Sloth

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:05 PM

So let me get this straight, the argument you all are making is that if Cam had a:

 

1) great coach

2) great OLine

3) great defense

4) great playcalling

 

....then he would be as good as Luck? lmao. man, way to put 0.0% of responsibility on the guy that touches the ball 75 times per game

 

No. The argument is that by comparing their individual performances, Newton has played better than Luck. Pretty much across the board.

 

Of course, once you've backpedaled you way into using wins as a stat (the The Golden Calf of Bristol effect) you have pretty much thrown in the towel and announced yourself as football dumb.

 

It sucks that Keuchly is like the 25th best MLB in football :`( Why can't he win games??!



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:05 PM

1) no, if you can read i said, 4th quarter COMEBACKS. not leads that the defense held on to.

2) yes people from the south are dumb. theres a reason stereotypes stick. not saying there arent smart people from the south, but in general, it's actually pretty embarrassing.

Cam has led the Panthers in 7 fourth quarter comebacks leads and one tie. The defense has failed to hold 6 times. Also our kicker missed a game tying field goal.

Out of Luck's 8 fourth quarter comebacks 6 were scores with 3:00+ minutes to go in the game that the defense has held. Another on of his wins the defense held a three point lead going into the fourth by giving up zero points in the fourth quarter.

I can't remember the last time we held a one score lead with 3:00+ to to in a game. Cam's record and fourth quarter comebacks would look a lot different if he had that timely support like Luck did.

But don't let that get in your way.

#264 TonyN

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:05 PM

I am not sure Newton is ever going to develop into a high percentage passer. I realize he throws deep a lot, but he was 26th in the NFL last year in completion percentage. Looks like more of the same this year. Not good enough.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:05 PM

goddamn it, I forgot what it was like when we had consecutive losing games around here. "LUCK LUCK LUCK!?!?!?!"

 

well they would be yelling about griffin too if his team didn't get shithoused today

 

at least that element is unlikely to show its face for a while



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:06 PM

Prove all that, man.  How is he better than Cam, when they're stats are pretty much the same.  Wait, no they're not...Cam is killing that man statistically.  Go ahead and spew some bullsh*t about how wins makes Luck better, and how that determines he's going to be a better player than Cam.  All the wins prove is Luck has the better overall team.  

 

Also @ the bolded...naw man.  TD's thrown and rushed, INT's thrown, passer rating and yes completion percentage is what's got me going.  All of those better than Lucks.

So you are a stats guy.  Fine.

 

Good luck with that.  Sounds like it would be awesome.

 

Congratulations.  YOu think Cam has a brighter future than Luck.  I don't.

 

You have stat lines to back you up and I have wins, a rookie playoff run, and faaaaar better fundamentals in the pocket to back me up.

 

oh yeah both guys took over 2-14 teams and I won't even begin to compare the pressure.  One taking over for an injured hall of famer thrown on the trash heap in the stadium he built and the other having to measure up to the great Jimmy Claussen.

 

For the record, considering the actual situation I hope beyond all hope that you are right.  I just find no logic in your faith.  Its like you guys feel personally attacked or something.  

 

This obsession is weird.   I don't even like Luck.  I think he's a dick for dodging us.  How I get pinned with taking his side has been a strange turn of events.  But I just do not see what you guys see anymore.  

 

So far that makes me a Luck loving, illogical, off the rails, racist.  And still counting.

 

 

forgive me but something about that just makes me feel that some of you are fans for the wrong reasons and therefore willing to defend in spite of reality or logic.  Not sure what hold he has on some of you but it seems unhealthy to say the least.



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:06 PM

Cam has led the Panthers in 8 fourth quarter comebacks or ties. The defense has failed to hold 6 times. Also our kicker missed a game tying field goal.

Out of Luck's 8 fourth quarter comebacks 6 were scores with 3:00+ minutes to go in the game that the defense has held. Another on of his wins the defense held a three point lead going into the fourth by giving up zero points in the fourth quarter.

I can't remember the last time we held a one score lead with 3:00+ to to in a game. Cam's record and fourth quarter comebacks would look a lot different if he had that timely support like Luck did.

But don't let that get in your way.

 

shut it down, thread over

 

sorry this had to happen to you mumouey or however your username is spelled.



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:07 PM

Cam has led the Panthers in 8 fourth quarter comebacks or ties. The defense has failed to hold 6 times. Also our kicker missed a game tying field goal.

Out of Luck's 8 fourth quarter comebacks 6 were scores with 3:00+ minutes to go in the game that the defense has held. Another on of his wins the defense held a three point lead going into the fourth by giving up zero points in the fourth quarter.

I can't remember the last time we held a one score lead with 3:00+ to to in a game. Cam's record and fourth quarter comebacks would look a lot different if he had that timely support like Luck did.

But don't let that get in your way.

 

thank you god, reason.



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:07 PM

So let me get this straight, the argument you all are making is that if Cam had a:

 

1) great coach

2) great OLine

3) great defense

4) great playcalling

 

....then he would be as good as Luck? lmao. man, way to put 0.0% of responsibility on the guy that touches the ball 75 times per game

 

Cam would do just fine with 1. Rookie year when the defense was bad we were still in games, Head coach giving the ball back to other teams and other horrible decisions.effects us the most. Defense aint gotta be great just make stops and get some turnovers.



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:08 PM

So you are a stats guy.  Fine.

 

Good luck with that.  Sounds like it would be awesome.

 

Congratulations.  YOu think Cam has a brighter future than Luck.  I don't.

 

You have stat lines to back you up and I have wins, a rookie playoff run, and faaaaar better fundamentals in the pocket to back me up.

 

oh yeah both guys took over 2-14 teams and I won't even begin to compare the pressure.  One taking over for an injured hall of famer thrown on the trash heap in the stadium he built and the other having to measure up to the great Jimmy Claussen.

 

For the record, considering the actual situation I hope beyond all hope that you are right.  I just find no logic in your faith.  Its like you guys feel personally attacked or something.  

 

This obsession is weird.   I don't even like Luck.  I think he's a dick for dodging us.  How I get pinned with taking his side has been a strange turn of events.  But I just do not see what you guys see anymore.  

 

So far that makes me a Luck loving, illogical, off the rails, racist.  And still counting.

 

 

forgive me but something about that just makes me feel that some of you are fans for the wrong reasons and therefore willing to defend in spite of reality or logic.  Not sure what hold he has on some of you but it seems unhealthy to say the least.

 

 

Cam has led the Panthers in 7 fourth quarter comebacks leads and one tie. The defense has failed to hold 6 times. Also our kicker missed a game tying field goal.

Out of Luck's 8 fourth quarter comebacks 6 were scores with 3:00+ minutes to go in the game that the defense has held. Another on of his wins the defense held a three point lead going into the fourth by giving up zero points in the fourth quarter.

I can't remember the last time we held a one score lead with 3:00+ to to in a game. Cam's record and fourth quarter comebacks would look a lot different if he had that timely support like Luck did.

But don't let that get in your way.




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