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Tony Dungy "There is no such thing as scoring too quickly"


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Said last night during the SNF game.

 

He is right.

 

Despite what Rivera says, and despite the nuckle heads here that defended Rivera saying it, there is no such thing as scoring too quickly.

 

Look how our offense performed in the 2 minute drill. They looked like a competent offense again, marched right down the field and got the touchdown. Give Cam a few play choices for a series, and let him call it at the line. Don't wait for Shula to throw a dart and see which play call it hit on the board.

 

It is time to hand the offense to Cam and let him do what he wants to do. In short, let cam ball.

 

Did we stick with what worked? Heck no. Right back to taking forever to get a play off and letting the defense be fully prepared.

 

In regards to what happens late in a close game, I agree.

 

If you're talking about overall pace, the Eagles defense might disagree with you.
 

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I'm wondering if the Panthers even practice the "2min drill".

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I agree with smitty the players have to make plays but the coaches are the ones that send down the plays for them to execute.   If the wrong plays are chosen again and again then no matter how well the players execute the play it will not work.  Like many have said....that last drive we had we were doing well driving down the field using a mix of running and short yardage passes especially to smitty and olsen throughout the game even....then we get close to field goal range and we do three run plays in a row...on with williams just running right up the gut for virtually a few yards...Dungy always let manning do his thing and get first downs because he knew he needed the points...he knew his def was suspect at times....Does this coaching staff not realize we have a suspect secondary especially as a whole when they are gassed toward the end of the game....Its kind of like playing blackjack by the book...you know the casino loves it when you play by the book because then they know the exact odds of everything.  The trick is to develop your own system to some degree and stick with it...but as a player you have to know when to hold when to double down when to split and when to get the hell up and walk away...This coach and staff only know when to hold....we don't take calculated chances that actually give us better odds of actually winning...I do not understand it...I just hope the players have a players only meeting today or tomorrow and get some stuff out in the open....and just take it upon themselves to step up and talk to the coaches about what the hell is going on with this time and playing calling....Cam can't just come out and say something about hey let me be cam and let me roam a little and make my plays....he's a play maker...let him make plays...we are better than 0-2...but we have to go on from here and start to step up.....Hopefully we can keep this train going with a 1-2 record and then the bye bring in some OL help if we can find it...bring back florence and hopefully barner can finally play...then hit a winning streak...which looks in our favor...cards away but doable, rams, vikings bucs.....why not 4-3 then have stewart back playing hard too...As a fan we have to hope for the best...I don't think I'm being  a Homer here we do have talent...we do need some OL help if we're going to get the Off going...but last year I think it was worse and we won games and actually put up points...let cam be cam....let this def blitz which will allow our weak secondary to look average...lets just win some damn games...

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" We typically run a very deep cover three"

??????

You do not even realize if we are talkning about our of the Bills defense. And you accuse me of not knowing what I am talkning about?


They still weren't running prevent D.

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The bills were not in prevent.

 

They are running man coverage on all receivers always staying deeper than their man even though they have with help over the top.

 

(Check the first play of the drive, the cb never looks at DeAngelo even as he get 10 yards into his area, eyes are fixed on Smith and he is deep the entire play. )

 

Call it prevent or not but the fact still stands that it is not a defense a opponent will be in unless it is a 2 minute situation. 

 

So you statement that Cam was effective here and that is proof he always will be effective running the offense is not valid. 

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In games decided by less than 1 TD...Cam Newton is 2-12.  At some point...one person (QB or coach) needs to learn and adjust.  Neither are showing a penchant for doing that. 

 

 

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Cam is used to a high tempo feense and I think his football rhythym is in that.

We were supposed to implement tempo right?!

Oh yeah Shula is coaching sorry.

 

Man the tempo at the first of the game was terrible. 
 

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In games decided by less than 1 TD...Cam Newton is 2-12.  At some point...one person (QB or coach) needs to learn and adjust.  Neither are showing a penchant for doing that. 

 

yesterday was  good example of why that 2-12 number is really, really misleading...

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I'm withholding the record of who Cam is compared to all the time.  Most lines are within that number, so yes...I understand how it's misleading.  How about 4th quarter comebacks vs. collapses.

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Said last night during the SNF game.

 

He is right.

 

Despite what Rivera says, and despite the nuckle heads here that defended Rivera saying it, there is no such thing as scoring too quickly.

 

Look how our offense performed in the 2 minute drill. They looked like a competent offense again, marched right down the field and got the touchdown. Give Cam a few play choices for a series, and let him call it at the line. Don't wait for Shula to throw a dart and see which play call it hit on the board.

 

It is time to hand the offense to Cam and let him do what he wants to do. In short, let cam ball.

 

Did we stick with what worked? Heck no. Right back to taking forever to get a play off and letting the defense be fully prepared.

 

This is kind of ironic though.  Dungy didn't open up any of his team's O until he allowed Peyton Manning to basically call his own plays during the Super Bowl run.
 

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