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#1 Zod

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:18 AM

Byron Bell and Cam Newton were the two biggest flaws yesterday.

 

Bell got a -4.6

Newton a -2.9

 

The rest of the O-Line got favorable marks.



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:21 AM

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I saw some of the worst tackle play/technique yesterday. Bell was totally outmatched.

Cam? Shula and Rivera are trying to make him a pocket passer by eliminating what makes him dangerous. You take away the threat of a run and Cam is an average QB. It's the sum of the parts that makes him unique.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:24 AM

I saw some of the worst tackle play/technique yesterday. Bell was totally outmatched.

Cam? Shula and Rivera are trying to make him a pocket passer by eliminating what makes him dangerous. You take away the threat of a run and Cam is an average QB. It's the sum of the parts that makes him unique.

Not only are Shula and Rivera forcing him into a pocket qb, but Gettleman made the same comments during training camp. This fuging franchise doesn't know how to use Cam.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:25 AM

Yesterday, especially early on, was a bad performance by Cam.  As much as I love Cam and want him to be here 15 years, I probably would have given a pregnant, 7 second pause

 

And Bell was ridiculous yesterday.  I seriously can't remember a game where I saw one of our Offensive lineman get abused so thoroughly.  The only game I have even seen in recent memory was watching Gabe Cabrimi getting beat by Aldon Smith last year on MNF. 



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:26 AM

Interestingly, they are discussing that RGIII had no planned runs yesterday.



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:26 AM

Cam had tons of time though in the pocket



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:28 AM

Cam had tons of time though in the pocket

 

 

Not on some of the Bell miscues, but overall, you're right.  Can't put all of it on the O-line by any stretch.  Some were just bad throws when Cam had time



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:30 AM

I still like Cam in the pocket. The thing is, is that under center QB'ing relys on play-action. I am not making excuses. I believe Cam could have definitely done better (some of those throws were embarrassing), But I hope we don't give up on the undercenter pocket passing Cam. (but with the threat of the run)



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:31 AM

...It's important to note that Bell's poor play has a direct correlation to Cam's struggles. 



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:41 AM

Cam had a pretty shaky outing and I'm sure he would agree. We've all seen what he's capable of in the past, so I'm not overly concerned.

 

Byron had a historically bad outing, but he thinks he played well. We've all seen what he's capable of in the past, so I'm extremely concerned.



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:42 AM

Cam had tons of time though in the pocket


Most of those plays were long-developing plays. He may have had time, but by the time someone finally got open was when the pressure finally got to him.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:44 AM

Most of those plays were long-developing plays. He may have had time, but by the time someone finally got open was when the pressure finally got to him.


This they showed a lot of plays where there was nowhere to go with the ball

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:47 AM

I saw some of the worst tackle play/technique yesterday. Bell was totally outmatched.

Cam? Shula and Rivera are trying to make him a pocket passer by eliminating what makes him dangerous. You take away the threat of a run and Cam is an average QB. It's the sum of the parts that makes him unique.

 

 

When they went to a hurry up type offense and just let Cam play, he did much better... hmmmm...  might they learn from this?  Nah...



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:48 AM

You notice Cam was on fire during the final seconds of the 2nd quarter, and that is because Shula gave him shorter developing plays.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:48 AM

they tried changing what cam does. of course it's going to fail.

 

they tried doing it with jake after he came back from tommy john and made him overthink everything he did.

 

you change the nature of the QB and you risk damaging the product.

 

cam is/was a dynamic, gunslinging, big play guy and they tried making him a game manager.

 

good job rivera and shula.

 

ya done messed up.

 

and in other news bell quit twitter.




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