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Does Cam make his WRs better?

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Our #2 receiver is basically Greg Olsen, a fuging tight end for crying out loud.

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Our #2 receiver is basically Greg Olsen, a fuging tight end for crying out loud.

The Pats top two wr's last year were freakin TE's for crying out loud.  That isn't that unusual.

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false.  the qb is the leader, leaders make other players better, or they should.  believer whatever you must to blame everyone but Cam.

Leader my a$$. How does a leader make someone run a 4.3 at 6'6 240 pounds. NFL players are professionals who's been working on their craft since pee-wee. They deserve more credit when they catch a football from brady or the likes. Give me a break!

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The Pats top two wr's last year were freakin TE's for crying out loud.

 

Are you going to sit there with a straight face and compare Gronk and Hernandez to what we have?

 

LMAO.

 

Oh, and just to throw it out there. Cam Newton had a record setting rookie season when we had two good TE's in Olsen and Shockey together. No, it's all Cam's fault though. Why would we want to surround him with talent? Psh.

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You don't have to be GB to find offense. IMO, you can find success with three reliable weapons. We have 89 and Olsen and that makes two. Most of the production has to come from the QB and HC/OC. Russell Wilson doesn't have much receiving help but he still find ways to make those guys up there look like stars. Look at Tennessee for example with Britt, Wright, Walker and Washington. Not much going on with a bad QB at play. We need to gut the whole coaching staff but more importantly Cam has to step up.

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Russell Wilson literally found nine different receiving targets in our loss to Seattle.

 

Uh, do we even have half that number of options that can actually run a decent route or get on the field?

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Tom Brady won several superbowls with Deon Branch as his number 1 WR. Donovan Mcnabb made Jason Avant and Todd Pinkston house hold names. I happen to think Peyton Manning has always been blessed with good/great WR's. Even Russel Wilson has made Golden Tate look competent. Either way, there are two different possibilities here. Either Cam doesn't make his teammates better, or Lafell, Gettis etc really suck.[/quote

How quick we forget the pats taping the other teams practices...spy gate. They haven't done squatvsince being busted....lol.

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No. Cam needs "good" receivers. He's not a Manning, Brady, Brees or Rodgers who can make scrubs look like Pro Bowlers. Cam needs to be put in a Matt Ryan position with two really damn good receivers and a reliable TE. Cam will struggle if weapons are not added. Put Peyton here in Carolina, and LaFail would instantly be a 1k yards receiver. That's just not who Cam is. He doesn't read defense fast enough and decision making is questionable.

For some reason I have never seen peyton on a team without a loaded WR group. Reggie Wayne and Garcon are doing pretty well without him. Brady is not doing too well without those TE, is he? I wanna see brady in a system without those 5 yards routes and those short sure-handed receivers who can go down their knees to catch those passes. Same for rodgers, he has pass catchers all over the field.

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You don't have to be GB to find offense. IMO, you can find success with three reliable weapons. We have 89 and Olsen and that makes two. Most of the production has to come from the QB and HC/OC. Russell Wilson doesn't have much receiving help but he still find ways to make those guys up there look like stars. Look at Tennessee for example with Britt, Wright, Walker and Washington. Not much going on with a bad QB at play. We need to gut the whole coaching staff but more importantly Cam has to step up.

 

I agree scheme is the main issue. However, Seattle's WRs may not be talented but they are able to find weak spots in zone coverage. Also, they break from their routes when they see Russel Wilson is trying to buy time or is under pressure. Furthermore, they attack the ball, they don't wait for the ball to come to them all the time.

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Russell Wilson literally found nine different receiving targets in our loss to Seattle.

Uh, do we even have half that number of options that can actually run a decent route or get on the field?

Who deserve the credit for Wilson finding 9 different receivers: the receivers or Wilson?

Answer: Wilson

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Who deserve the credit for Wilson finding 9 different receivers: the receivers or Wilson?

Answer: Wilson

 

What exactly are you getting at here?

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We're talking about two completely different systems and football teams.

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