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#16 Mr. Scot

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:42 PM

I don't know that I'd use McNabb as an example of someone who made his receivers better.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:44 PM

Tom Brady won several superbowls with Deon Branch as his number 1 WR. Donovan Mcnabb made Jason Avant and Todd Pinkston house hold names. I happen to think Peyton Manning has always been blessed with good/great WR's. Even Russel Wilson has made Golden Tate look competent. Either way, there are two different possibilities here. Either Cam doesn't make his teammates better, or Lafell, Gettis etc really suck.

Did you see Brady on the sideline when his receivers couldn't make him look good in the poring rain? Plus, brady throws 4 yard passes. Anybody can catch those and make it 2nd & 3. We're not that type of offense. Whatever people say it's the receivers who catches the footballs. No matter what name on the jersey.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:49 PM

No. Cam needs "good" receivers. He's not a Manning, Brady, Brees or Rodgers who can make scrubs look like Pro Bowlers. Cam needs to be put in a Matt Ryan position with two really damn good receivers and a reliable TE. Cam will struggle if weapons are not added. Put Peyton here in Carolina, and LaFail would instantly be a 1k yards receiver. That's just not who Cam is. He doesn't read defense fast enough and decision making is questionable.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:52 PM

hard to make them better if you dont throw to them, but no, i dont think he is on the Brady/Manning/Rogers level where the QB makes the wr's better than their actual talent.  Of course, I can only think of three like that so it's not that common.  Schemes, protection also play a role.

QB throws ball, WR catches ball. The QB is not capable of inducing a WR with the natural ability of getting open and catching a football. It's the reverse, the WR's sole purpose is to make the QB better. Put Calvin on any team and that QB will rack up 5000 yards. Even with a terrible side way throwing motion.

 



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:58 PM

QB throws ball, WR catches ball. The QB is not capable of inducing a WR with the natural ability of getting open and catching a football. It's the reverse, the WR's sole purpose is to make the QB better. Put Calvin on any team and that QB will rack up 5000 yards. Even with a terrible side way throwing motion.


Not if he keep sailing passes.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:01 PM

QB throws ball, WR catches ball. The QB is not capable of inducing a WR with the natural ability of getting open and catching a football. It's the reverse, the WR's sole purpose is to make the QB better. Put Calvin on any team and that QB will rack up 5000 yards. Even with a terrible side way throwing motion.

false.  the qb is the leader, leaders make other players better, or they should.  believer whatever you must to blame everyone but Cam.



#22 mav1234

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:05 PM

Certainly Cam deserves some blame, but scheme is pretty important for emphasizing what guys are good at, and I don't think our coaching staff does that.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:06 PM

Not if he keep sailing passes.

Calvin catch sailed passes too.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:07 PM

When the hell is the last time this team has actually had a real receiving corps outside Steve Smith?

 

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Exactly.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:09 PM

Our #2 receiver is basically Greg Olsen, a fuging tight end for crying out loud.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:10 PM

Our #2 receiver is basically Greg Olsen, a fuging tight end for crying out loud.

The Pats top two wr's last year were freakin TE's for crying out loud.  That isn't that unusual.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:11 PM

false.  the qb is the leader, leaders make other players better, or they should.  believer whatever you must to blame everyone but Cam.

Leader my a$$. How does a leader make someone run a 4.3 at 6'6 240 pounds. NFL players are professionals who's been working on their craft since pee-wee. They deserve more credit when they catch a football from brady or the likes. Give me a break!



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:11 PM

The Pats top two wr's last year were freakin TE's for crying out loud.

 

Are you going to sit there with a straight face and compare Gronk and Hernandez to what we have?

 

LMAO.

 

Oh, and just to throw it out there. Cam Newton had a record setting rookie season when we had two good TE's in Olsen and Shockey together. No, it's all Cam's fault though. Why would we want to surround him with talent? Psh.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:16 PM

You don't have to be GB to find offense. IMO, you can find success with three reliable weapons. We have 89 and Olsen and that makes two. Most of the production has to come from the QB and HC/OC. Russell Wilson doesn't have much receiving help but he still find ways to make those guys up there look like stars. Look at Tennessee for example with Britt, Wright, Walker and Washington. Not much going on with a bad QB at play. We need to gut the whole coaching staff but more importantly Cam has to step up.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:18 PM

Russell Wilson literally found nine different receiving targets in our loss to Seattle.

 

Uh, do we even have half that number of options that can actually run a decent route or get on the field?




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