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#13 TheRed

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:38 PM

It doesn't matter who you have at QB and WR if the game plan and execution is total poo.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:38 PM

i know you want to hate, give Brady a few more weeks. He has an entire new cast this year, he has to develop some rapport with them, it doesnt happen over night.


So Cam has played with Ginn and Hixon? No damn excuse he's fuging Tom Brady 3x Super Bowl Champion. No damn excuse for sucking ass like he has

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:39 PM

So Cam has played with Ginn and Hixon? No damn excuse he's fuging Tom Brady 3x Super Bowl Champion. No damn excuse for sucking ass like he has

Ginn is what the 4th option right now including Olsen?  Hixon doesnt even see the field so not sure why he is mentioned.  This is his third year with everyone else.  Both Smith and Olsen have had some of their better years these last two, so there is some give and take.  When Cam is on, he makes the wr's better, but when he is overthrowing them, obviously they wont look as good.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:42 PM

I don't know that I'd use McNabb as an example of someone who made his receivers better.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:44 PM

Tom Brady won several superbowls with Deon Branch as his number 1 WR. Donovan Mcnabb made Jason Avant and Todd Pinkston house hold names. I happen to think Peyton Manning has always been blessed with good/great WR's. Even Russel Wilson has made Golden Tate look competent. Either way, there are two different possibilities here. Either Cam doesn't make his teammates better, or Lafell, Gettis etc really suck.

Did you see Brady on the sideline when his receivers couldn't make him look good in the poring rain? Plus, brady throws 4 yard passes. Anybody can catch those and make it 2nd & 3. We're not that type of offense. Whatever people say it's the receivers who catches the footballs. No matter what name on the jersey.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:49 PM

No. Cam needs "good" receivers. He's not a Manning, Brady, Brees or Rodgers who can make scrubs look like Pro Bowlers. Cam needs to be put in a Matt Ryan position with two really damn good receivers and a reliable TE. Cam will struggle if weapons are not added. Put Peyton here in Carolina, and LaFail would instantly be a 1k yards receiver. That's just not who Cam is. He doesn't read defense fast enough and decision making is questionable.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:52 PM

hard to make them better if you dont throw to them, but no, i dont think he is on the Brady/Manning/Rogers level where the QB makes the wr's better than their actual talent.  Of course, I can only think of three like that so it's not that common.  Schemes, protection also play a role.

QB throws ball, WR catches ball. The QB is not capable of inducing a WR with the natural ability of getting open and catching a football. It's the reverse, the WR's sole purpose is to make the QB better. Put Calvin on any team and that QB will rack up 5000 yards. Even with a terrible side way throwing motion.

 



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:58 PM

QB throws ball, WR catches ball. The QB is not capable of inducing a WR with the natural ability of getting open and catching a football. It's the reverse, the WR's sole purpose is to make the QB better. Put Calvin on any team and that QB will rack up 5000 yards. Even with a terrible side way throwing motion.


Not if he keep sailing passes.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:01 PM

QB throws ball, WR catches ball. The QB is not capable of inducing a WR with the natural ability of getting open and catching a football. It's the reverse, the WR's sole purpose is to make the QB better. Put Calvin on any team and that QB will rack up 5000 yards. Even with a terrible side way throwing motion.

false.  the qb is the leader, leaders make other players better, or they should.  believer whatever you must to blame everyone but Cam.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:05 PM

Certainly Cam deserves some blame, but scheme is pretty important for emphasizing what guys are good at, and I don't think our coaching staff does that.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:06 PM

Not if he keep sailing passes.

Calvin catch sailed passes too.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:07 PM

When the hell is the last time this team has actually had a real receiving corps outside Steve Smith?

 

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Exactly.