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#31 Argus Plexus

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Posted 19 September 2013 - 03:48 PM

Calm, grasshopper. Things will work out. Gett Dawg has the future of his franchise in mind. In the meantime we're going to have to slog through a season or two of garbage time.



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Posted 19 September 2013 - 03:54 PM

I'm not at all certain that he is all in with this team, or with Cam as far as that goes.Don't know what hIs plan is, maybe just to blow the whole thing up and start from scratch.It has been said that it is unwise to get attached to individual players, maybe we should heed that advice with our new GM.

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Posted 19 September 2013 - 03:56 PM

I'm not at all certain that he is all in with this team, or with Cam as far as that goes.Don't know what hIs plan is, maybe just to blow the whole thing up and start from scratch.It has been said that it is unwise to get attached to individual players, maybe we should heed that advice with our new GM.

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Posted 19 September 2013 - 03:57 PM

Sorry for the double post, thumb typing sucks

#35 bleys

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Posted 19 September 2013 - 04:15 PM

fans shouldn't sit around reaching for answers that aren't given to them straight.   You can make certain justifiable assumptions, but don't go overboard trying to figure all this out. 



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:17 AM

I honestly don't expect any general manager to open up and tell us anything.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:19 AM

i just hope to jesus and mary and all the saints that gettleman isn't just a jerry yes-man in disguise. all my hope would be forever vanished in the wind



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:26 AM

Yeah, he strikes me as a yes man.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:29 AM

i just hope to jesus and mary and all the saints that gettleman isn't just a jerry yes-man in disguise. all my hope would be forever vanished in the wind

 

Yes man or not, some of Gettleman's comments have leaned toward him sharing much of JR's aging mindset and philosophy. Even if Gettleman is in charge of the head coaching hire, I fear it may be more of the same.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 09:30 AM

Another thought about Gettlemen:  I think his moves have been excellent.  His draft was excellent, his hard-ball approach to the ridiculous Hurney contracts was great.   Even when Marty had cap room, when did he ever do this well?" 

 

Chase Blackburn,  LB

Quinten Mikell, SS

Dwan Edwards, DT

Capt. Munnerlyn CB

DJ Moore, CB

Ted Ginn, WR/KR

Hixon WR

Travelle Wharton, G/T

Scott, G

Mitchell S

 

Never even close.  And Sure he created some dead money--actually, Hurney did---but to do this while cutting $25 million in cap room is tremendous.

 

The draft also showed vision, getting starting-caliber players in the fifth and sixth rounds-people went ape when we drafted a LB and RB.  However, it is looking as if Beason and at least one of Double trouble will be gone. 

 

Gettlemen's next move will be a trade or a free agent to play RT.  Bell has 1 more game.

 

I basically agree with you. G-man made some good, solid moves during the draft and very "smart" moves in FA. His cap management has been excellent, and his overall personnel moves seem adequate taking the cap into account. But, where G-man gambled---the O-line, our receiving corps, and our defensive backfield (which hopefully has been half-way fixed by reacquiring Florence)---has pretty much left us in a pickle in regards to contending for the postseason this year.  Furthermore, in top dawg's world, I would like a GM who is not so endeared to a certain philosophy that he fails to make adjustments during a season where he put the team, and particularly the QB, on notice by saying "It's time to win."  I mean, it's still early in the season, before a BYE week no less, and we've seen some serious problems and/or lingering issues that don't lend themselves toward winning now, so why wait before a team with an attitude and nasty pass rushers come to town before delving into FA?

 

Oh, I know, when Gettleman was talking about Cam Newton and winning now he did say, "I'm a big believer in letting nature take its course."

 

This may explain some things, and may not lead to the immediate answers that some of us are looking for.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:11 AM

No one is getting a Moore or Britt for a 5th-6th round pick. More like a 2nd-3rd.

 

Gman has brought in enough bodies to help get this team into the playoffs even though they're not big names. The player have to execute and the coaches have to coach. I just think that Gman is really forcing Cam to show him that he is the future of this franchise. He wants to see if Cam can carry this team on his own. Gman isnt going to go bring another WR or RB in when the "answer is already on the roster".



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:19 AM

FIFY


With Cam Newton, our front 7, Kuechly, Kalil and Olsen I'm sure there are a few quality guys out there willing to accept the challenge.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:48 AM

No one is getting a Moore or Britt for a 5th-6th round pick. More like a 2nd-3rd.

 

Gman has brought in enough bodies to help get this team into the playoffs even though they're not big names. The player have to execute and the coaches have to coach. I just think that Gman is really forcing Cam to show him that he is the future of this franchise. He wants to see if Cam can carry this team on his own. Gman isnt going to go bring another WR or RB in when the "answer is already on the roster".

 

That's laughable, probably on all accounts.  No one is going to give a 2nd or 3rd round pick for receivers who have shown flashes of being able to take over a game, but far too inconsistently. Both their respective coaches have publicly acknowledged perceived problems with their focus, and Britt's injury issues (by themselves) are enough to drop his stock in the realm of a 6th or 7th round pick, particularly since knee swelling has apparently become a problem this year.  No one is going to risk a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a guy that could conceivably be out of the league in a couple of years (or next year, depending upon Britt's knees, not to mention past off-field issues).  Moreover, looking at the first two weeks, the passing game looks eerily similar to the past couple of years, in regards to Smitty and Olsen being the only consistent options), so I don't believe that G-man deserves the benefit of the doubt in reference to our receiving corp.  He and others may believe it's good enough, but we obviously need something better than just "good enough".



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:54 AM

To OP, people need to understand that what GMs and HCs say to media don't always correlate with what happens behind the scenes.. Just sayin... There's a reason everyone is on 1 year deals here...

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:10 AM

That's laughable, probably on all accounts.  No one is going to give a 2nd or 3rd round pick for receivers who have shown flashes of being able to take over a game, but far too inconsistently. Both their respective coaches have publicly acknowledged perceived problems with their focus, and Britt's injury issues (by themselves) are enough to drop his stock in the realm of a 6th or 7th round pick, particularly since knee swelling has apparently become a problem this year.  No one is going to risk a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a guy that could conceivably be out of the league in a couple of years (or next year, depending upon Britt's knees, not to mention past off-field issues).  Moreover, looking at the first two weeks, the passing game looks eerily similar to the past couple of years, in regards to Smitty and Olsen being the only consistent options), so I don't believe that G-man deserves the benefit of the doubt in reference to our receiving corp.  He and others may believe it's good enough, but we obviously need something better than just "good enough".

 

So easy, teams should be lining up on the front doors of the Titans and Raiders. Why havent the Ravens? Why havent us? Why havent the Patriots? You're assuming something that isnt there.




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