i actually wouldn't hate it but there are much better options. kevin sumlin is seriously my dream, and since johnny football is definitely going to the nfl this year he could be looking for a new job. i know there's not a prayer though
Why Lovie Smith is just what the Panthers need.
Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:08 PM
I'm on the fence, but bear in mind.....
Lovie Smith had poo QBs and a winning record.....
Ron Rivera has a winning QB and a poo record.
Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:19 AM
Lovie was willing to experiment with his OCs. You have to give him credit for that.
Some of you slay me. Pass over a HC with a winning record just because he was a Defensive Coach. I promise you. Lovie did try to find an OC that would work. He just never found the right fit. Not saying he would find one this time. But, please do not down play his Offense without knowing his background.
Between Lovie and Gettlemen. I would think between the two of them, they very well could come up with a decent hire. These two guys know what they want to do. I would be happy with the pairing of Lovie and Gettlemen.
Personally, I would rather go with Lovie and Gettlemen than go with some unproven yahoo with some imagination but no experience. Get an experienced HC who is willing to experiment with innovation on O. To me, that is the way to go.
Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:58 AM
Or we could go Norv Turner. He is imaginative enough. Or Ken Whisenhunt who has turned Phillip Rivers from the dark side to where he looks like Peyton Manning after only 6 months.
Posted 21 September 2013 - 05:40 AM
Yes. I like it. Lovie is like John Fox except more successful in the regular season. Both Fox and Lovie took a defense-first team with a no-name QB to the Super Bowl. Both lost to one of the best QBs (and head coaches) in history.
The difference is that Lovie would have Cam (still has untapped potential). And he would have our d-line plus Keuchly (even better than what Fox had with Peppers and Morgan). That in itself is probably more talent than Lovie had in Chicago. Not to mention Olsen, Kalil, TD, Gross, D-Lo and Stew, and lots of other talent at key positions. RR should be taking this team somewhere with all of these gems. Lovie could do it and turn this team around in maybe 1 or 2 seasons. he showed the ability to put together excellent secondaries and develop talent through the draft.
I certainly don't expect this kind of long-term solution to happen this season. Even if RR gets fired after tomorrow. I would expect there to be a search with Lovie being one option. At least he does fit well into the talent that we've drafted, our current schemes, and the owner's penchant for defensive minded HCs. I think it would be safe to say that Lovie would let Shula go. He might like to keep McD, but I doubt it. It's probably better to clean house.
I would love to see this happen immediately after the Giants loss, but obviously that won't be how JR handles it. The meltdown will be epic...but I have a feeling he will ride RR like he did Fox in 2010. That will be the biggest tragedy of the whole thing.
Posted 21 September 2013 - 06:07 AM
Some tough Lovie wouldn't hurt. Not sure it's the answer. It's obvious to me we have the same problem we have always had in Carolina. That problem is multiple problems. Despite years and millions. We are still years away at best.
Posted 21 September 2013 - 06:07 AM
the first reaction i had was "did you SEE what his offenses looked like?"
But what about Lovie Smith as HC. Hue Jackson as OC and Rod Marinelli as DC. That's a winning combination.
Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:42 AM
Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:38 AM
Again... Ron Rivera is the product of Lovie Smith's training and coaching.
Actually no he isn't... Smith and Rivera never saw eye-to-eye on the defense.
Lovie- Tampa 2
Rivera- Jim Johnson D
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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:41 AM
so many good coaching prospects to look at right now and you people want Lovie Smith
"WELL ONLY IF WE CANT GET JOHN GROODEN OR BILL COWAR AMIRYT OR AMIRYT"
Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:12 PM
No more DC HC's period
If we can't find someone who hasn't coached all parts of the team, it's OC time
I'm seriously thinking Gruden
Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:58 PM
We simply need an aggressive offensive coach who also wants a dominant defense. If we keep signing defensive minded coaches we'll never get over the never take risk attitude that's been with the franchise since 2002.