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Best Answer DRSundrop, 21 September 2013 - 10:40 AM

I think the message the OP is trying to convey is that Gettleman could possibly view our HC and QB as one. Perhaps the OP is insuating they are linked together as in they may not be here long but I dont think the OP is saying they ARE LINKED together and should GO as some of you are flaming him for.

 

First off, I'm completely for the Carolina Panthers not any one individual on the team. I think Cam is an exceptional QB that is inevitably linked to Rivera but I'm certain Gettleman has the knowledge to assign fault for this teams failures and shortcomings and understands that Newton can be successful in this league.

 

The best comment or question I've seen on our offensive woes was the other day and I don't know who said it so I'm not sure who to give credit to but someone asked "Would you put Manning in a read option offense? ..So why you keep Cam in the pocket?"

 

The main trouble here is that we don't know the root of the problems because we as a fanbase are kept in the dark about the inner workings of this team and can only speculate.

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#31 Kuech the Sneak

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:42 AM

When a rookie head coach drafts a QB with the first overall pick, yes they are joined at the hip. Cam in year three is still making rookie mistakes and it's frustrating to watch, almost like he hasn't learned anything his first two years

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:46 AM

Cam newton is not guaranteed any more than anyone else.  I do not see how some think he is beyond criticism, as if his greatness has been confirmed.  It has not.  I still want him to become great, but this thread was about Gettlemen's timetable, not any poster on here-some of you need to stop acting as if you have all the answers and listen for a change.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:53 AM

To answer the thread title: f*ck no

 

Also, if Gettleman notices anything so far, it's that these coaches DO NOT understand how to utilize any of our offensive talent.  It's not just Cam.

 

This coaching staff will be gone first and foremost then we just gotta keep putting the pieces together. 



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:55 AM

Apparently Cam is the first and last quarterback in the NFL to overthrow a receiver.

I wonder if Jim Harbaugh and the 49ers are considering replacing Kaepernick after the recent Seattle loss.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:55 AM

From what I've seen, Cam has had this team in a position to win nearly evey game he's played in since he's entered the NFL. I can honestly only think of a few where we were beaten outright with no hope at the end.

It takes more than a QB to win a game. Especially one as raw as Cam Newton. We all knew he was a project QB when he was drafted, which is why I wanted AJ Green instead. But after seeing this guy play... he is a beast. And HE IS GETTING BETTER. And he was the right pick.

Most thought he wouldn't start until this year, or best case last year. Which actually may have been better for him. But to say he hasn't shown improvement since day one is simply not true. He isn't the type of QB to completely dominate the game and dictate what defenses do yet, but he will be. Hopefully, that's as a Panther. Now, let's use some early draft picks on WRs and OL before we give up on an extraordinary talent like Cam.



You took the words right out of my mouth, its crazy. I have/had the same mindset. We all down here thought AJ was going to the panthers definitely with him being from South Carolina. But then we got cam and I wasn't sold. But then his first season he blown me away with his talent and he can only get better. He just has to show everyone that his first season performance wasn't a fluke.


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:01 AM

I think some of us need to take a step back and watch a few other games and see how other QBs play. All QBs make silly mistakes. All QBs miss throws that make you scratch your head. All QBs get sacked. All QBs throw interceptions.

 

No, Cam can not dictate a game like Peyton, Brees, Rodgers and Brady. But, these guys are future HOFers. Likely first ballet.

 

He keeps the team in every game. But the team usually blows the game/lead at the end. Is he above criticism, no. But neither are Luke, Star, CJ, Beason, Smitty, etc. The kid will never play a perfect game - it's not possible for anyone at that position.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:03 AM

The thing I can't stand about him is him not going through reads, that whole buffalo game he stared down his first read and that's poo a third year QB shouldn't be doing

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:05 AM

The thing I can't stand about him is him not going through reads, that whole buffalo game he stared down his first read and that's poo a third year QB shouldn't be doing


Yeah because he's the only quarterback who's has a bad game this year. Give me a damn break.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:09 AM

I said it in another thread. But I'll say it again. Cam needs to loosen up and have fun. All the other young qb's play well because there not put under a lot of pressure and have others to take the load off, so there just out there having fun. While Cam is asked to do everything here.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:11 AM

Let's put it this way:  Unless he improves, he is not getting a $20 million per year contract.  Getttlemen probably has a plan B. Only a fool would not.  Some of you are sounding like the Indy fans did when they let Manning go.

 

Cam is showing signs of not being able to read defenses.  Don't get mad and call me names--when you hold the ball too long, lock onto one WR, etc.  that is possibly what that means.  Many open WRs are not getting looks-- I wish it were different.  But to act as if he is the football Mesiah is silly.  He has some serious obstacles to overcome.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:15 AM

Let's put it this way: Unless he improves, he is not getting a $20 million per year contract. Getttlemen probably has a plan B. Only a fool would not. Some of you are sounding like the Indy fans did when they let Manning go.

Cam is showing signs of not being able to read defenses. Don't get mad and call me names--when you hold the ball too long, lock onto one WR, etc. that is possibly what that means. Many open WRs are not getting looks-- I wish it were different. But to act as if he is the football Mesiah is silly. He has some serious obstacles to overcome.


Yeah because other teams in the league are also ready to move on from their QB's after week 2. I suppose that our upcoming opponent is considering moving on from Eli after he's thrown 7 INT's right? This is just pure idiocy.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:31 AM

The thing I can't stand about him is him not going through reads, that whole buffalo game he stared down his first read and that's poo a third year QB shouldn't be doing

 

He did seem to stare down Smitty and Olsen most of the game. But his first pass was a drop by Lafell. Lafell dropped another TD pass. Ginn short armed a long completion. I think he lost confidence in his receivers - minus 88 and 89.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:35 AM

Yeah because he's the only quarterback who's has a bad game this year. Give me a damn break.


You see the thing is, it's not just the buffalo game. I was just using that as an example, he's had plenty of games where he just predetermines who he wants to throw to. Doesn't read the field consistently

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:40 AM   Best Answer

I think the message the OP is trying to convey is that Gettleman could possibly view our HC and QB as one. Perhaps the OP is insuating they are linked together as in they may not be here long but I dont think the OP is saying they ARE LINKED together and should GO as some of you are flaming him for.

 

First off, I'm completely for the Carolina Panthers not any one individual on the team. I think Cam is an exceptional QB that is inevitably linked to Rivera but I'm certain Gettleman has the knowledge to assign fault for this teams failures and shortcomings and understands that Newton can be successful in this league.

 

The best comment or question I've seen on our offensive woes was the other day and I don't know who said it so I'm not sure who to give credit to but someone asked "Would you put Manning in a read option offense? ..So why you keep Cam in the pocket?"

 

The main trouble here is that we don't know the root of the problems because we as a fanbase are kept in the dark about the inner workings of this team and can only speculate.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:42 AM

You see the thing is, it's not just the buffalo game. I was just using that as an example, he's had plenty of games where he just predetermines who he wants to throw to. Doesn't read the field consistently


He played well against Seattle, even with some very bad drops from our receivers.

Let's look into why Steve Smith and Greg Olsen are his favorite targets. We've got Lafell who is in a contract year and getting outplayed by Ginn. We've got Hixon who can't even get on the field and AE who barely gets any snaps.

Hey but it's all Cam's fault though. Why can't he just throw it to himself, am I right?


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