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#16 rodeo

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 02:41 AM

How soon you all forget Buffalo. Remember Buffalo should be our quote.

 

Our d-line was playing contain against Manuel, rushing wide around the pocket to prevent him from running rather than trying to sack him. That was a mistake in gameplanning, not execution.



#17 Carolina Mike

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 04:09 AM

D-line looks great. I'm not sure if it was just me, but the whole D looked to be communicating far better Sunday then any game over this last 2 years. Normally someone looks lost or has their hands up not knowing what is going on. It was really great to see players actually communicating better.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 04:16 AM

Not possible to stop them.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 04:38 AM

Not possible to stop them.

 

 

Maybe but with a still questionable secondary we can still get exploited.



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Posted 24 September 2013 - 04:51 AM

Our d-line was playing contain against Manuel, rushing wide around the pocket to prevent him from running rather than trying to sack him. That was a mistake in gameplanning, not execution.

 

...still makes me nauseous to think about it....



#21 GotSwag?

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:29 AM

Have a running QB who is good at escaping pressure(see Wilson, Russell) or gameplan quick passes(see Manuel, EJ).  

 

Or we could help them out like in Buffalo at times by playing soft coverage.

 

If Im Rivera, im sticking with the cover 2 base D until teams prove they can run on us.  Im also playing press coverage taking away the quick passes.  



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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:33 AM

What an amazing thing to watch. Four monsters crushing the pocket consistently.

How do you scout them? How do you plan for them?

You can't really double more than one unless you keep a tight end in and maybe a RB. That still leaves someone one on one. And even doubling them isn't going to stop them all the time.

Keep the pressure and that defensive backfield is going to look All-Pro no matter who is back there.

If you were a Offensive coordinator how would you handle this group?






BTW what a fun thing to discuss since our D-Line has been so abysmal over the last couple of years.


They will be dominate or meh....based on the scheme an opposing team runs.

#23 Snake

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:50 AM

Standard response to a high pressure DL is quick throws off of short drops (3 steps, generally), essentially the WCO approach.

You have to have a QB that can execute it, of course (receivers too).


And drives like that tend to sputter out. That's when our offense needs to score TDs and force teams to open up. Its why we lost the two games we did. We were simply allowing teams to small ball us into submission.

#24 Snake

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:55 AM

Our d-line was playing contain against Manuel, rushing wide around the pocket to prevent him from running rather than trying to sack him. That was a mistake in gameplanning, not execution.


Yea they made his job easy that day. I say let a QB run on you if they are going to play hurry up all game. He will be gasses by the second and the sacks will just hurt that much more.

#25 natty

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:17 AM

Fast paced offense, quick drops, tire them out.  



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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:19 AM

Quick slants to Marshall for Chicago in the playoffs

#27 stratopanther

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:24 AM

Our d-line was playing contain against Manuel, rushing wide around the pocket to prevent him from running rather than trying to sack him. That was a mistake in gameplanning, not execution.

Especially frustrating knowing the Jets sacked Manuel 8 times.



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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:32 AM

Sorry I'll take all the optimism and happiness about our win and just shove it elsewhere.


How about to setting up your tailgate and heckling opposing fans into never showing up again. At least without wearing panthers gear. No more, "the Panthers are my SECOND team."

#29 CPcavedweller

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:36 AM

Our d-line was playing contain against Manuel, rushing wide around the pocket to prevent him from running rather than trying to sack him. That was a mistake in gameplanning, not execution.


I don't care what it was. It was ineffective. I believe you just answered the threads question, "how to stop our front 4?" Game planning. Do we have a great front four? Yes. But this is really the first game we got to the QB.(other two games against mobile guys) Carson Palmer should be an easy target and we play enough traditional QBs that I believe we can make a run based on our front 7. The offense is fine as long as Shula operates the way he did Sunday. Much better play calling than any game I remember with Chud.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 12:33 PM

If you were a Offensive coordinator how would you handle this group?

 

 

 

 

I guess I would watch the Bills game.




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