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#16 Panthro

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:50 AM



#17 CRA

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:55 AM

It's going to be interesting to see what we do at the RB position next season with D Will, J Stew and Barner. Barner, to me is a younger, faster and better catching out of the backfield D Will. We seem to me to be putting ourselves in position to cut or trade D Will and roll with Stew as our starter and Barner as our change of pace back, which I would disagree with. D Will is the type of back that I wouldn't cut. He has a very low fumble rating and is a good all around back. To me, being a good back that doesn't fumble often is the type of back I'd want to keep.

He is expensive and old. He is running well....but that hurts his future odds here

As far as fumbling goes...he isn't the same never fumble guy he was from rookie to peaking 2008 guy. He drops it about in pace with any RB now.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:59 AM

loved that song.

 

loved solid gold, although it always bugged me they weren't playing live, but no one really did on any tv show back then.

 

btw, anyone else notice the guy playing a chapman stick in that band? well....anyone who knows what one is, anyway.



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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:05 AM

Half of his runs went for fewer than 2.5 yards against the giants.

He doesn't have any burst left, and his total yards are a product not of a high ypc but an unsustainable number of touches.

I'm gonna do a thread about it when I have time but his first three games are gold dust.

#20 Frash Brastard

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:06 AM

I just looked up the top 5 rushers and like 4 of them are on losing teams. The only one who isn't is Demarco Murray, and you know the Cowboys are going to fug up at some point this season and miss the playoffs

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:12 AM

Half of his runs went for fewer than 2.5 yards against the giants.

He doesn't have any burst left, and his total yards are a product not of a high ypc but an unsustainable number of touches.

I'm gonna do a thread about it when I have time but his first three games are gold dust.


Yep, when Barner's toenail grows in and he gets on the field.....people will see burst. Young blood at work.

Williams is running better than last year. He is picking up 2-3 or so consistently instead of going down at the line. Makes a difference vs the guy we saw last year

#22 countryboi

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:16 AM

Half of his runs went for fewer than 2.5 yards against the giants.

He doesn't have any burst left, and his total yards are a product not of a high ypc but an unsustainable number of touches.

I'm gonna do a thread about it when I have time but his first three games are gold dust.

 

 

you could say that about any running back...hell week one AP had 78 yards on one carry and 17 carries for 15 yards the rest of the game and last week vs the jax of all teams lynch had 27 yards on one play and 42 yards on 16 carries for the rest of the game. Dwill may not have father time on his side but he is as effective as any running back in the league right now.



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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:17 AM

you could say that about any running back...hell week one AP had 78 yards on one carry and 17 carries for 15 yards the rest of the game and last week vs the jax of all teams lynch had 27 yards on one play and 42 yards on 16 carries for the rest of the game. Dwill may not have father time on his side but he is as effective as any running back in the league right now.


Actually no you can't. Actually there are numerous websites that will let you sort by whatever stat you want!

#24 CRA

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:22 AM

you could say that about any running back...hell week one AP had 78 yards on one carry and 17 carries for 15 yards the rest of the game and last week vs the jax of all teams lynch had 27 yards on one play and 42 yards on 16 carries for the rest of the game. Dwill may not have father time on his side but he is as effective as any running back in the league right now.


Disagree. He is being used wisely. He isn't as effective as any RB in the league.....which is why other RBs have more than just rush yards. They have rush TDs, they have receiving yards, they have rec TDs.

Williams isn't what he was. They are using him MUCH wiser than Chud did. Which is good

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:29 AM

Did someone really just bring AP into this discussion?

 

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#26 TheRumGone

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:50 AM

anyone arguing that dlo is as effective a runner as anyone else in the league needs to get their eyes checked.

 

 



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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:00 AM

Having Stewart back will be a good thing. That one two punch was leathel for years.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:04 AM

I'll be happy when Stewart gets healthy because I love bruising rb's. But I honestly don't see Barner seeing the field very often unless we're blowing up another team-not-named-Giants as we played Armond Smith last game. Or Stewart or Williams gets hurt. Even then Tolbert will be 1st choice.

 

I have questions about Stewart though. Will he stay healthy? Ankle surgeries can be a bitch. The times he went down last year, it didn't take much more than a tweak the wrong way. No one rolled up his ankle, no one fell on it. How much better have the surgeries made his ankles? And when he was able to break free and head for the end zone, he was caught from behind fairly often. DeAngelo makes it to the end zone more often than not once he does break free.

 

I know, I know. Huddlers are all "the grass is greener on the other side" so you're kissing Stewart's ass right now. He's just another "over priced" rb on the injury list to me. His contract is worse than DeAngelo's. He has a ton of guaranteed money coming his way. Meaning JR pays him no matter what. If I can remember, it's about $15,000 but I could be wrong.

 

Bottom line, DeAngelo is producing and Stewart is not. I love watching DeAngelo run. I'm sure our oline does too. He gets himself so low and just goes streaking. Love it!

 

 



#29 Mojoman

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:16 AM

Does anybody know how Stewart's rehab is progressing?  Is he able to run full speed with cutting yet?



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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:33 AM

It'll be interesting to see what happens when Stewart comes back, especially now that Shula is calling the plays and our o-line has been much better at running-blocking. J-Stew is the stronger runner inbetween the tackles, and trucks DBs and LBs like nothing.

Both D-Will and J-Stew could rush for a 1000 yards respectively again.



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