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Our WR's can't get YAC's

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This league figures out all the young QB's, that's how it works. Those who can rise above it and stay one step ahead will eventually succeed. It was said of Cam repeatedly last year. Now these idiots need to man up that these guys may not be all that they continued to shove down our throats.

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Cam need to lead his receivers with some of his throws. There was a completion to Olsen against the Giants where he was on his own but by the time he made the catch, he could barely stay in bounds. Actually it's been a while since I saw Cam complete a pass to a receiver in stride. Most have been on these come back routes and crossing routes (where they usually get tackled right away). Maybe a deep threat like Ted Ginn can help with that.

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Not all that surprising when you have a longball gunslinger type quarterbacking a Coryell offense.

 

A lot of Newton's passes will be long in the air, meaning by the time they get to their target they'll likely have someone close to catching up (not necessarily close enough to cover, but close enough to tackle).  many will also be near the sideline or, as others have mentioned, in the end zone.

 

And yeah, Newton's ball placement isn't such that he hits a lot of guys in stride.  Receivers tend to have to adjust.  But again, since they tend to be long passes anyway, not that big a problem.

 

We're not running a WCO where you just throw it to a guy short and expect him to make something of it.  Granted, we are capable of doing that (especially with Smith and Ginn) but the attack isn't predicated on that sort of principle.

 

Long as it's effective, it's just a trade off.  No big deal.

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Great points Mr. Scot!

 

Those plays will come.  Cam has to settle in and hit his receivers more in stride.  They need a few bad tackles and angles (which happen).  It will happen.  I'm not stressed so long as we can string together some win.

 

An appropriate Fox quote:  "Stats are for losers"

 

And Al Davis "Just win, baby"

 

I hope we can apply those two quotes much more frequently this season.

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I said from day one he wasn't anything like people said he was. All you had to do was watch him play in college, it's like these analysts heard someone say something once and then they all just repeated each other.

The media echo chamber is a very real thing and even people in the media will admit it.

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Not concerned with. Just win baby!

RG3 may have thrown for more YAC, but we haven't been losing like 31-0 this year. Wish the experts would have expertise.

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Some of this is on Newton, actually. The QBs job is to get the ball to the receiver in a way that makes it easier for them to get YACs.

Yep.

You'll get flamed for this btw.

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It is very hard to screen with a qb like Cam as the defense will have players spying on him on all plays, those spies will also be in great position to get to the screen receiver.

No screens == less YAC.

Same reasoning with quick throws, Cam can buy himself time so no need to use them (of course unless your RT is named Bell and Mario Williams are on the other team...).

That, and the strongest arm in the league.

This isn't madden, we have no yac because our receivers do not create seperation. Simple as that, it's not like they catch the ball and stop running.

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Three things.

 

Scheme

 

Cam

 

WR's and RB's

 

I don't worry about Yac as much as I worry about us getting into the endzone, that's the only thing that matters to me.

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Colin looks as bad as I thought he was. I never thought he passed the proverbial eye test but still managed to get it done. He has no form and in my opinion is awkward in the pocket. He's fast, he can throw the hell out of the ball but he is not as accurate as he needs to be to beat man to man consistently, especially if his receivers continue to struggle and the play calling stays the same.

ESPN put him up, it's time for the fans to start tearing him down. I feel for him because he's not in an ideal situation offensively and their play calling was unimaginative as can be.

 

The only thing I see CK being able to make plays off of is designed roll outs. Or he waits in the pocket until protection breaks down and makes a play when coverage has to break.

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The only thing I see CK being able to make plays off of is designed roll outs. Or he waits in the pocket until protection breaks down and makes a play when coverage has to break.

I agree, it just seems to me he is no skills as they pertain to the QB position. I've seen him hit guys on 30 yard across the field throws but never over the top. I believe it will all come out soon enough after he gets more games under his belt. He's the hot thing right now because he's on a team built to go all the way no matter who is at QB.

After watching Colt McCoy in the preseason, I believe he is truly better at being a QB, than Kaep is. Under a true QB coach I believe he could do well but Cleveland has been a career waste plant for the past 15 years. Kaep just scrambles around till someone breaks open which is why he had trouble against the Colts and Hawks. Not accurate enough to throw to his guys in tight man to man coverage.

Not to make this a Kaep Cam comparison but the throws to Olsen that were dropped were either wide open throws, or the throw where Olsen slid to avoid a hit and Cam fit it inbetween 2 guys 40 yards downfield. That's the difference.

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