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#1 Panther53521

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:36 AM

http://davedameshek....heres-the-deal/

 

Panthers get WR Hakeem Nicks; Giants get RB Jonathan Stewart 

Nicks – who’ll be gone from the Giants after this season – is the ideal solution for the restlessness his fellow North Carolina natives have endured since watching superhuman Cam Newton throw to an aging Steve Smith and a bunch of powder blue-clad Clark Kents.  Stewart gives the Giants an imperfect cure to their weak backfield situation.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:40 AM

I doubt Giants do it without draft picks included.


Or that JStew is owed a bajillion dollars.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:42 AM

No chance of this happening. We'd have to incur over 9 million in dead money plus sign nicks to a long term deal. A dumb suggestion.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:46 AM

Well Hicks is hurt often and Stew is the same way.So I guess one dude riding the bike or another doing the same is a wash.It sure would help us and would benefit them also.Our running game is potent if we keep allowing Cam to do his thing (here that mikey boy), and Barner can bring the goods.Between these two and Deangelo/Tolbert there may not be enough balls to go around.Don't know if DG is a big trade guy,but helping out his old chums while getting us some help may sway the deal.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:46 AM

Dave Dameshek aka the trade advisor! This guy is too cool!

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:49 AM

panther4life may be correct.Don't think DG wants to eat that much money. Money talks and we may just do our thing in the draft at rookie contract rates.

#7 Kuech the Sneak

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:49 AM

That won't happen.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:50 AM

No chance of this happening. We'd have to incur over 9 million in dead money plus sign nicks to a long term deal. A dumb suggestion.

 

Unless Gettleman could convince him to first restructure before the trade.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:54 AM

Unless Gettleman could convince him to first restructure before the trade.

 

A restructure normally means more guaranteed money in exchange for lowering base salary to lower the cap hit and spread the guarantee into the future.

 

There is no way possible to downsize his original signing bonus. The signing bonus is what causes the dead money. Sure he could pull a beason and lower his base salary but that does nothing to stop the dead money hit.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:57 AM

There is no way possible to downsize his original signing bonus.

 

Sure there is, you ask the player to downsize his signing bonus.

 

Hell, a contract can be rewritten for a player to lose all his signing bonus and play for 1 dollar, if the player would agree to it.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:59 AM

Unless Gettleman could convince him to first restructure before the trade.

How would that work? Your telling him could we please get some of our money back before we kick you out the door to the Giants? Yeah no way any NFL player worth anything would agree to that.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 09:00 AM

Sure there is, you ask the player to downsize his signing bonus.

 

Hell, a contract can be rewritten for a player to lose all his signing bonus and play for 1 dollar, if the player would agree to it.

NO you can't. The signing bonuses are upfront checks. They are paid the day the contract is signed. For cap purposes you can spread them out evenly for up to 5 years against the cap but you cant erase them.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 09:00 AM

http://davedameshek....heres-the-deal/

 

Panthers get WR Hakeem Nicks; Giants get RB Jonathan Stewart 

Nicks – who’ll be gone from the Giants after this season – is the ideal solution for the restlessness his fellow North Carolina natives have endured since watching superhuman Cam Newton throw to an aging Steve Smith and a bunch of powder blue-clad Clark Kents.  Stewart gives the Giants an imperfect cure to their weak backfield situation.

 

they are the ones that win you championships..........



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 09:04 AM

Here you go zod

 

 

http://nflphilosophy...p-implications/

 

"Signing Bonus

Signing bonuses are exactly what they sound like. It is a bonus that is paid directly to the player at the time of signing his contract. For cap calculation purposes, the signing bonus is “prorated” over the life of the contract. This simply means that the amount of the signing bonus is spread out over the years of the contract evenly. So a $5 million signing bonus on a 5-year contract will count $1 million per year against the cap. Again, this is only for cap purposes – the player has already received this money. Signing bonuses are guaranteed and cannot be recouped except in extremely rare circumstances (think Atlanta vs. Mike Vick). The max proration for a bonus is 5 years. This is done so that teams can’t sign 10 year contracts to help alleviate the bonus hit."

 

 

 



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 09:15 AM

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