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Do we rebuild like the Jags or retool like the Cheifs?


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#16 LinvilleGorge

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 08:51 PM

Yep.  That decision was made before Gettleman was ever hired.

 

I can understand not forcing Rivera to twist in the wind through the whole GM hire process, but I think it's abundantly clear at this point that Rivera just isn't the guy.

 

I am of the opposite train of thought.  I don't get hiring a new GM and forcing the existing coaching staff on him.  Seems like you're kind of undercutting your GM right off the bat.



#17 Mr. Scot

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:03 PM

I am of the opposite train of thought.  I don't get hiring a new GM and forcing the existing coaching staff on him.  Seems like you're kind of undercutting your GM right off the bat.

 

Players being solidly behind Rivera was a big factor.

 

I can understand why he did it, and there's some logic to seeing if Rivera can succeed with a new GM (the Bears did the same thing with Lovie Smith).

 

I just think that question is now answered.



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:06 PM

I dont think that you could call what the Jags are doing "rebuilding"



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:06 PM

Players being solidly behind Rivera was a big factor.

 

I can understand why he did it, and there's some logic to seeing if Rivera can succeed with a new GM (the Bears did the same thing with Lovie Smith).

 

I just think that question is now answered.

 

I get it, I just think the situation could've been handled better.  I don't think JR should've come out and publicly said that Rivera would remain no matter who was hired as GM. If he wanted Rivera to have another chance, that could be handled with the GM candidates behind the scene.  I don't think the owner should make decisions like that and publicly announce them.  Just seems that it undercuts the authority of the GM.



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:10 PM

I will kill the person who decides to rebuild this team. All we need is a new culture: retool.

#21 Delhommey

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:13 PM

Players being solidly behind Rivera was a big factor.

I can understand why he did it, and there's some logic to seeing if Rivera can succeed with a new GM (the Bears did the same thing with Lovie Smith).

I just think that question is now answered.

Fancy way of saying he still had a year left on his contract that JR'd be on the hook for.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:18 PM

That is a tough question. But talent wise I would say re-tool. Character wise rebuild. So I don't know. In Gettleman I trust.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:22 PM

I get it, I just think the situation could've been handled better.  I don't think JR should've come out and publicly said that Rivera would remain no matter who was hired as GM. If he wanted Rivera to have another chance, that could be handled with the GM candidates behind the scene.  I don't think the owner should make decisions like that and publicly announce them.  Just seems that it undercuts the authority of the GM.

 

Maybe.  All hindsight now.

 

I'm actually looking forward to a head coaching search being conducted by a true football guy.

 

 



#24 LinvilleGorge

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:25 PM

Maybe.  All hindsight now.

 

I'm actually looking forward to a head coaching search being conducted by a true football guy.

 

Me too... if JR is willing to open the wallet and doesn't hamstring Gettleman with a budget that simply excludes proven winners or hot prospects simply because there's a lot more money elsewhere.



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:37 PM

Me too... if JR is willing to open the wallet and doesn't hamstring Gettleman with a budget that simply excludes proven winners or hot prospects simply because there's a lot more money elsewhere.

 

I could live with a retread, but would not want a guy who's already won a Super Bowl.  Not a single one has ever won a Super Bowl with their second team.

 

More likely scenario is we go for a coordinator, probably defensive but I think offensive is possible.

 

College coach?  Doubt it.



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:38 PM

Yep.  That decision was made before Gettleman was ever hired.

 

I can understand not forcing Rivera to twist in the wind through the whole GM hire process, but I think it's abundantly clear at this point that Rivera just isn't the guy.

Get a new coaching staff,trade J Stewart,cut AE,Hixon and others,draft a WR,OL,QB,secondary.....!Keep most of the front 7,Smitty,DW and even Cam for now!



#27 Delhommey

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:44 PM

Maybe. All hindsight now.

I'm actually looking forward to a head coaching search being conducted by a true football guy.

It wasn't hindsight when posters were pointing it out as it was happening.

And good luck keeping Jerry out of the mix as if that ever happens.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:53 PM

We have quite a bit of talent so I think a retool would be best. But It just makes me sad we have to talk about this topic. New coaching search coming up and a bunch of people are gonna be doubting our QB

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:59 PM

We need to trade Smitty to the Pats. It is a win all around. We get a late rounder, patriots get a much needed WR, and Smitty gets to play for a real team with a chance to get a ring.



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 10:12 PM

yeah the chiefs arent a really good example. they had stars at almost every position but unfortunately the two holes they had were at QB and head coach. once they filled those two spots you suddenly have a dominant team




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