Stopping Newton - The Word is Out


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The 5th season is not really an option. If we exercised it, we would have to pay him in excess of $20M for one season (avg of top 5 QG salaries).

Gettleman is not that stupid.

My biggest questions is this....will many of the idiots on this board leave when Cam is shown the door after next season? Or, are they truly Panther fans?

My biggest question is... if next year's draft & free agency look the same as the past couple years, will he be asking where said door is located?

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I'm done arguing with these idiots. They know damn well that these squads have invested heavily in their QBs but they're either too emotional after the crushing and embarrassing defeat or they've always disliked Cam as our QB. The fact is Newton's struggles are fixable by any competent HC/OC. Are Rivera and Shula competent? Lulz, no.

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Cam Newton fails to go through his progrssions, which in turn causes the high amount of interceptions. This is not completely Cam newton's fault, of course he as a professional quarterback should know to do this already, but let's ask ourselves, who picks a quarterback #1 overall in the draft, who people are aware he isn't a very refined passer, and then hires a defensive minded head coach who happens to have no head coaching experience at all, then expect your "franchise quarterback" to perform at superstar level consistently. And to top this off, you give a young quarterback who isn't good with his progressions, no reason to even look through these progressions because he has only one option he can trust on the outside in steve smith. Of course he has Olsen to but we're talking about wideouts. So in carolina we are basically setting Cam Newton up for failure by 1. having a horrible head coach who can't teach a quarterback anything, 2. Not caring enough to give him either a formidable offensive line and/or higher level, more consistent receivers, 3. having a dumb ass offensive coordinator who doesn't know how to let Cam off a short leash be the playmaker he can be . This is my point of view on it, blame the man who does the hiring, for he is setting Cam up for failure. Get Cam an offensive minded coach, an O-Line, and better receivers!

Go see Not Awesome's thread. All those who attended the game clearly saw Cam scanning and surveying the field.

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I saw him holding the ball far too long. But is it all his fault? The O-Line couldn't give him more than 2 seconds, and his receivers can't get open. as i said its not cam, its the other pieces.

Go see Not Awesome's thread. All those who attended the game clearly saw Cam scanning and surveying the field.

 

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You're right I saw what maybe 2 screen plays run? Both went for good yardage too we need to develop a short passing game

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The difference between great franchises and the crap called Carolina. Baltimore sensed they might have an issue with the OL, what do they do? They trade for a 26 y old starting LT(Eugene Monroe). The panthers have had OL problem the last 3 years(during Cam's era), what do they do? NOTHING. What a fu(ked up franchise.

 

If you're a rebuilding team, why the hell do you draft defensive players only. Even the jets realize they can't win games on defense only. wtf!

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I saw him holding the ball far too long. But is it all his fault? The O-Line couldn't give him more than 2 seconds, and his receivers can't get open. as i said its not cam, its the other pieces.

It's a combination of both. Receivers had issues getting open and the o-line was only giving Cam 1.8 seconds to react. I mean, after a full quarter of watching the opposing coaching staff send 5-6 rushers, you would think Shula would take advantage of Arizona's overaggressive playcalling with screens, underneath slants, uptempo sets/no huddle, etc. Nope.

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after watching Manning and Romo go at it yesterday, it obvious to me that Cam will always be a gimmick qb.  He is not a pro style qb and will never be accurate on deep passes.  I dont think Cam can get us to the Super Bowl.  Its not his fault, hes doing what he is capable of doing.

 

Cam doesn't need to be a Manning or Romo, he just needs to put points on the board.  Problem is that our coaches are trying to make Cam be like Romo and Manning.  That will never work.  He can take us to a Superbowl but they need to create gameplans that leverage his strengths.  We have the pieces.

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My biggest questions is this....will many of the idiots on this board leave when Cam is shown the door after next season?  Or, are they truly Panther fans?

 

You say "when he is shown the door" like it's a foregone conclusion. He's only in his third year and we've played exactly four games. Are you insane? So because people don't agree with your silly rantings they are automatically labeled as idiots and fans of only Cam?

 

You sound incredibly delusional. It's only noon.

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i saw a screen pass that shat on that

It's a combination of both. Receivers had issues getting open and the o-line was only giving Cam 1.8 seconds to react. I mean, after a full quarter of watching the opposing coaching staff send 5-6 rushers, you would think Shula would take advantage of Arizona's overaggressive playcalling with screens, underneath slants, uptempo sets/no huddle, etc. Nope.

 

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60% is batpoo crazy.  the first drive was quick and efficient, and was effectively a TD.  calling faster plays will slow that pass rush down.  if we run a hurry up offense with rollouts, quick slants and screens, we will solve a lot of these problems.  unfortunately, we run the slowest developing offense in the history of the sport*.

 

 

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that was an exaggeration, please don't come at me with stats showing the 2-3 offenses from 1953 that were slower.

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the funny thing is that if smitty and lafell didnt drop 2 touchdowns that can be made by the average pop warner player, you guys would probably be praising cam for throwing for 300 yds and 2 TDs against an elite defense. its hard for me to blame cam his OLine struggles to pick up even the most basic blitz packages, his receivers drop passes at the most crucial times, and he has dumbass for an offensive coordinator and a QB coach whos never been a coach before. moving the ball all the way down the field and then going into the wildcat once you get inside the redzone is shula logic 101

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