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With a new coaching staff....could Newton be Josh Freeman'ed?

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no.

 

from the first second he stepped on the field against jacksonville in 2003, jake delhomme was the reason why the teams he was under center in carolina were successful.

 

100% true.  Jake's first game as a Panther was a clutch, come-from-behind victory.  Cam Newton's first game was a close loss, where he had the ball in his hands with a chance to tie the game at the end.  The trends from both of these games continued for years to come.

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no.

 

from the first second he stepped on the field against jacksonville in 2003, jake delhomme was the reason why the teams he was under center in carolina were successful.

 

Jake played a huge role in the success of those teams, but he wasn't the reason those teams had success.  He was #3 on the list IMO.  

 

1. defense

2. running game

3. Jake/Smitty

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Jake played a huge role in the success of those teams, but he wasn't the reason those teams had success.  He was #3 on the list IMO.  

 

1. defense

2. running game

3. Jake/Smitty

 

I'd flip flop #1 and #3...as you can see by the current Carolina Panther squad, defense can only do so much.  You need the guys to make the clutch plays on offense to WIN.  Defense will just keep you in the game unless it is scoring.  John Kasay needs to be on that list too...he was as clutch as Delhomme (except in the Superbowl...DAMN).  Ricky Proehl was damn clutch too.

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I just think it's funny how we seem to have come full circle on Jake.  When his arm fell apart and everyone was saying he sucked and was never any good, etc. it was crazy.  Now, nostalgia seems to be turning Jake into Joe Montana.  Jake was solid QB who had great moxie and clutch ability.  He was a great fit on that team, but he wasn't what made that team work.  If we had won that '03 Super Bowl, Jake would be mentioned along with the Trent Dilfers and Brad Johnsons of the world as QBs who got drug to a Super Bowl ring by being surrounded by a great team.  He wouldn't have deserved that as he went blow for blow with Tom Brady in that Super Bowl, but that would've been his legacy anyway.

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Cam will never be a elite QB. I woukd trade him now, mark my words. In two years he will go the way of Josh Freeman and we will be kicking ourselves for not trading him when we had a chance. I have never seen a more bi polar, inconsistent QB in my life. How Cam can go from Peyton Manning to Jimmy Clausen in a matter of just 45 minutes blows my mind into oblivion. I dont know what Cam has done to be so loved and deemed untouchable around here. A NFL analyst said it best.. "Cam is not a NFL QB, he is simply a big man with a big arm throwing the football."

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I just think it's funny how we seem to have come full circle on Jake.

 

I am not we.

 

jake delhomme is the greatest qb to ever wear a panther uniform.

 

cam newton has the potential to be, but there's one thing about potential that people fail to recognize...it means you haven't done poo yet.

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Cam will never be a elite QB. I woukd trade him now, mark my words. In two years he will go the way of Josh Freeman and we will be kicking ourselves for not trading him when we had a chance. I have never seen a more bi polar, inconsistent QB in my life. How Cam can go from Peyton Manning to Jimmy Clausen in a matter of just 45 minutes blows my mind into oblivion. I dont know what Cam has done to be so loved and deemed untouchable around here. A NFL analyst said it best.. "Cam is not a NFL QB, he is simply a big man with a big arm throwing the football."

You have no clue what you are speaking on

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Cam will never be a elite QB. I woukd trade him now, mark my words. In two years he will go the way of Josh Freeman and we will be kicking ourselves for not trading him when we had a chance. I have never seen a more bi polar, inconsistent QB in my life. How Cam can go from Peyton Manning to Jimmy Clausen in a matter of just 45 minutes blows my mind into oblivion. I dont know what Cam has done to be so loved and deemed untouchable around here. A NFL analyst said it best.. "Cam is not a NFL QB, he is simply a big man with a big arm throwing the football."

 

 

If Cam goes elsewhere, we'll get it rubbed in our faces once again in terms of what a sorry organization we have in place.  Remember when John Fox was the root of all of our problems?  Just get a coach in here that has some balls they said.  Fox is a lousy coach they said.  How has his career gone since leaving Charlotte?  Hell, the guy took a The Golden Calf of Bristol coached team to the playoffs and actually won a road playoff game with that team.  If Cam left here, he'd find more success elsewhere and it would suck to watch.  I live in Denver and have to have it rubbed in my face constantly about what a joke of a franchise the Panthers are to have kicked John Fox to the curb.  I thought the Panthers needed a change from Fox, but it was actually the opposite - Fox needed a change from the Panthers.

 

Unfortunately, it's finally coming home to roost for me that the Panthers issues are bigger than any player or coach.  We have an organizational issue.  JR wants to mimic the Steelers organizationally, but we aren't even close.

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I've been saying all year he will be gone once the new coach arrives.

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I would hope that Gettleman has enough sense to hire a coach that has a plan for Cam.

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