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Would you trade Cam Newton for Cleveland's 2 Number 1 picks?

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Why don't you guys go after Johnny Football? He seems like he would fit in with what Chud likes to do.

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send those two firsts over.  We've got a guy waiting in the wings that's better than cam.  His name is Armanti Edwards, maybe you've heard of him.

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i would need at least 5 first rounds for cam.

 

this isn't a matter of cam being worth 5 first rounders, it's a matter of that's what we would need to improve with a new qb. if you think a rookie qb (bridgewater, for example, as he is a stud and best qb in the class) could come in and ball out with our supporting cast you are out of your mind.

 

point is no QB outside of the big 3 (brady, manning, rodgers) would be successful in our offense. that is a result of our lack of talent and terrible scheme.

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Honestly, NO. Never. The Panthers self-destructing has nothing to do with Newton. He's a once-in-a-generational talent. He needs weapons, protection and a competent coaching staff.

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Nope, Cam isn't the problem... in fact he's one of the few players worth keeping. 

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I would consider it greatly, especially, if the Browns end up top 10 pick

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If that was a serious offer the Panthers would consider it. With their own pick likely being top 5 it would be huge for a rebuilding effort.

Let's be real, rebuilding is not this team's issue. I gues it will take some of u a few more pathetic seasons to realize that QBs are not hired to be work horses.

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Honestly, NO. Never. The Panthers self-destructing has nothing to do with Newton. He's a once-in-a-generational talent. He needs weapons, protection and a competent coaching staff.

 

He's not a one-in-a-generational talent.  Peyton Manning fits that description.  He's a perennial winner.  Went to the playoffs in his second year despite a questionable coaching staff.  You can blame Rivera for his conservative play calling all you want but he's not the one out on the field with the ball in his hands with the game on the line.  A once-in-a-generation QB would win despite crappy coaching.  Hell, look who Peyton Manning's head coach coach is now...

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He's not a one-in-a-generational talent.  Peyton Manning fits that description.  He's a perennial winner.  Went to the playoffs in his second year despite a questionable coaching staff.  You can blame Rivera for his conservative play calling all you want but he's not the one out on the field with the ball in his hands with the game on the line.  A once-in-a-generation QB would win despite crappy coaching.  Hell, look who Peyton Manning's head coach coach is now...

that's kinda true, those guys don't need all these said weapons to beat average teams like the Cards or Bills.  with that said, Cam is pretty close to that.

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Easily. Would allow us to draft Hundley, Matthews, and a WR. Too bad CLE would never offer that. 

 

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that's kinda true, those guys don't need all these said weapons to beat average teams like the Cards or Bills.  with that said, Cam is pretty close to that.

 

Exactly my point.  A one-in-a-generation type QB makes the players around them better.  No one has to question whether they have enough talent to win.  Does Tom Brady have a bunch of big name WR's to throw to?  No.  He MAKES them big names.  Wes Welker was just some cast off from Miami until he hooked up with Brady.  Peyton Manning does the same thing.  Who the hell was Eric Decker, or Julius Thomas before they hooked up with Manning?  You put a Brandon LaFell on one of those teams and he's challenging for a 1000 yard season.

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He's not a one-in-a-generational talent. Peyton Manning fits that description. He's a perennial winner. Went to the playoffs in his second year despite a questionable coaching staff. You can blame Rivera for his conservative play calling all you want but he's not the one out on the field with the ball in his hands with the game on the line. A once-in-a-generation QB would win despite crappy coaching. Hell, look who Peyton Manning's head coach coach is now...

Peyton is a god. He's an exception to the rule. That said, don't BS and suddenly get amnesia. Manning might have carried his team but did you forget the front office catered to Peyton? Hello?! Wayne, Harrison, James and a stout O-Line? Where's that for Cam? The fact is if you want a juggernaut offense, you have to invest on your QB.

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