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Would you trade Cam Newton for Cleveland's 2 Number 1 picks?

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gtfo.

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Throw in a 2nd and you have a deal.

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Peyton is a god. He's an exception to the rule. That said, don't BS and suddenly get amnesia. Manning might have carried his team but did you forget the front office catered to Peyton? Hello?! Wayne, Harrison, James and a stout O-Line? Where's that for Cam? The fact is if you want a juggernaut offense, you have to invest on your QB.

 

I agree with you there.  They have given Cam little help since he arrived.  You can already see he's using Ted Ginn as well as he can.  Smith isn't the player he once was and can't carry the passing attack on his back anymore.  Yet again the Panthers are one step behind where they should be.  Same went for finding the successor to Jake Delhomme some years back.  Maybe the Panthers were too high on Cam and thought he could do it with less and invested in the defense.  It's paying dividends there but not winning any games.

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Where is Kurb I swear
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Nope.

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I agree with you there. They have given Cam little help since he arrived. You can already see he's using Ted Ginn as well as he can. Smith isn't the player he once was and can't carry the passing attack on his back anymore. Yet again the Panthers are one step behind where they should be. Same went for finding the successor to Jake Delhomme some years back. Maybe the Panthers were too high on Cam and thought he could do it with less and invested in the defense. It's paying dividends there but not winning any games.


My line of thinking too.

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If we thought that Cam intended to get out of Carolina then by all means. Get a new QB, a big OT and a FS/CB in the first.

 

Otherwise no. Cam is the type of QB you build a team around and those are too hard to fins.

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Cam is worth 3 firsts and a 2nd....and I would do it for that...nothing less.

 

Throw in Smitty for a 3rd as well while were at it...to make sure the new QB doesn't lock in on him.

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hey man can you take this down.  my brother shot himself and i really don't need to be reminded of it when i'm on here trying to talk about the panthers.  thanks.

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Exactly my point.  A one-in-a-generation type QB makes the players around them better.  No one has to question whether they have enough talent to win.  Does Tom Brady have a bunch of big name WR's to throw to?  No.  He MAKES them big names.  Wes Welker was just some cast off from Miami until he hooked up with Brady.  Peyton Manning does the same thing.  Who the hell was Eric Decker, or Julius Thomas before they hooked up with Manning?  You put a Brandon LaFell on one of those teams and he's challenging for a 1000 yard season.

 

Eric Decker had 600 yards and 8 TDs with Kyle Orton & The Golden Calf of Bristol throwing him the ball in 2011, but lets not let facts get in the way of a good narrative....

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Not at all.

 

But I will give you a 4th, maybe a 3rd, for Josh Gordon

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Eric Decker had 600 yards and 8 TDs with The Golden Calf of Bristol throwing him the ball in 2011, but lets not let facts get in the way of a good narrative....

 

Goes back to what me and CRA were saying about this fan base not watching NFL football.

 

Welker was traded for a 2nd/7th round pick...hardly something a cast off would fetch.

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