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Can someone explain to me What the downside is to Firing Rivera mid-season

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Jim Skipper certainly could do no worse with this group.

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I keep seeing everyone suggesting that there is no way Rivera is fired mid-season.  I'm curious if G-man is such a great GM why he wouldn't do this now.  The season looks lost.   Perhaps firing Rivera would jumpstart a miracle comeback.  What else is there to lose?  Make McD the HC and see what happens says I.

 

1) It's unlikely that McD would save this season

2) JR hates firing people mid season - when he and I spoke he said he felt he paid a coach to develop players and that firing them was basically letting them off the hook.  Also, he literally told me that would cost money and fans don't like when he has to recoup losses since the like prices being low LOL

3) Reality is the season isn't totally lost, even if most of us feel it is... I mean, it's four games in and we aren't making the playoffs but you never know I guess.

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Gettleman is a yes man. JR runs this show. He does what Richardson tells him to do.

It was Jerry who forced Rivera on Gettleman in the first place. Yet you think Gettleman actually calls the shots? Nope.

Not being a smart azz but is this true?? I hear this all time but I haven't seen anything credible to prove it.

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I think we are all wondering that same thing. Firing a coach mid season just isn't J.R 's way.

Of all the replacements that Rivera had to hire this season he did a good job of not hiring a capable fill in.

There isn't a position coach on this team who would do worse as the HC than Rivera!

 

Ricky Proehl anyone!

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1) It's unlikely that McD would save this season

2) JR hates firing people mid season - when he and I spoke he said he felt he paid a coach to develop players and that firing them was basically letting them off the hook.  Also, he literally told me that would cost money and fans don't like when he has to recoup losses since the like prices being low LOL

3) Reality is the season isn't totally lost, even if most of us feel it is... I mean, it's four games in and we aren't making the playoffs but you never know I guess.

You actually talk to JR?

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There is absolutely zero downside.  It's not happening with Rivera.  Worst case we suck like we were already going to and have a high draft pick.  Best case, a miracle happens and we find a perm coach.

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1) It's unlikely that McD would save this season

2) JR hates firing people mid season - when he and I spoke he said he felt he paid a coach to develop players and that firing them was basically letting them off the hook.  Also, he literally told me that would cost money and fans don't like when he has to recoup losses since the like prices being low LOL

3) Reality is the season isn't totally lost, even if most of us feel it is... I mean, it's four games in and we aren't making the playoffs but you never know I guess.

 

The remaining schedule has the Panthers playing the Saints twice and the 49ers and Patriots.  That's 4 guaranteed losses to pile on.  Even if Carolina swept the Falcons and won the rest of their games (also having to play @ Miami), they'd only be 9-7.  That MIGHT get you a wild card spot but things would definitely have to turn around in a hurry and no one sees that happening.  The schedule is really rough after Week 8 starting with Atlanta.  Hell this team will probably lose to Tampa too.  Unless the Panthers decide to start playing real football after they are eliminated from playoff contention again (I guess this is likely), the Panthers are staring down a 5-11 record.  

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What does this mean? How does this issue take care of itself? Is Rivera going to quit?

It means this season will play out the way it is going to play out and decisions will be made. It may come mid season or it may come postseason, but that ship will sail.

And this season is not dead yet, it is on life support though.

But I don't see the benefit of firing him right now. There may not be a downside, but what is the benefit except to give the masses their scapegoat?

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You actually talk to JR?

Talked to him, back in 2010.  I complained about the team and he called me.  I've talked about it a few times and a bunch of other people had the same thing happen.

 

He basically defended keeping Fox pretty heavily and told me I'd see he was committed to winning.  I really believe he thinks what he is doing will lead to him winning in this league, but I just hope he realizes we need to develop Cam, whom he later said will be his last QB.

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Actually, there is a downside...

 

We're not going to bring anyone in from the outside.  So, we're not going to get someone to help Cam and his development.

 

However, I feel that Rivera has been a positive influence on Keek, and I think that he will continue to benefit from him for the rest of the season.

 

As much as the offense suffers with Rivera as HC, the defense improves.  I think that if our defensive leader can absorb more of Rivera's past experience, it can have a really big positive, long term.

 

I'm not saying keep Rivera all season, but right now, the season isn't completely gone yet.  Let's see what we can do.  I just hope our offense finds some kind of identity...

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