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koolkatluke

Since some are turning on Cam I have 4 question for you.

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1. He puts us in a position to lose more. How? Here is how? He rather take sacks than throw the ball away which leads to fumbles and getting out of FG range (both of which happened yesterday btw) he is terribly erratic and inconsistent on his throws, he stares down his receivers and throws into double coverage to a aging, slowing down Smitty on the wrong side of 34.

2. Lets see. yesterday Cards game, Titans game 2011, Falcons game in 2011 in Atlanta, Falcons game last season (the fumble), Packers in 2011 with his three picks, Seahawks game last season, Giants last year, Bears last season and Broncos. So atleast 9

3. Dont know

4. Too lazy to think about it

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I'm kind of curious, what did the Colts do?

They began building around their new young QB on the offensive side of the ball in the very same draft for starters.

1 Andrew Luck QB Stanford

2 Coby Fleener TE Stanford

3 Dwayne Allen TE Clemson

3 T. Y. Hilton WR Florida Intl

5 Vick Ballard RB Mississippi State

6 LaVon Brazill WR Ohio University

7 Justin Anderson G Georgia

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I'm kind of curious, what did the Colts do?

 

This year Trent Richardson, a second-tier WR (Darius Heyward-Bell, tho I don't think he has played all that well this year), drafted a starting guard (3rd round?), probably other moves, and last year they drafted some receiving targets.

 

so in 2 years they drafted 3 young receiving targets, brought in a veteran WR target that is pretty decent, drafted a starting guard, and brought in a potential superstar running back

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I'm kind of curious, what did the Colts do?

 

 

Fleener and Dwayne Allen :-)

 

T.Y. Hilton

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I will say the Panthers helped Cam out decently well early by getting Olsen and Shockey, but I don't think we've really done anything much to help him since.

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Fleener and Dwayne Allen :-)

 

 

Their first year they didn't have much impact.  Fleener is now getting more action because Dwayne is gone for the year I believe.  Ultimately however, I don't think these guys are making great impact on the Colts as major weapons just yet.  Richardson isn't doing much, and TY Hilton was a nobody who is now coming up.  I do think, this is just me, when I look at the Colts offense, it's not that much better than the Panthers offense.  We got runners, we got a good catching tight end, and we got a old vet receiver just like the Colts surrounded by a bunch of young guys.

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And before we start Cam has faults and he needs to improve so please don't say the "So Cam doesn't deserve any Blame" Line. He does just not all or half of it.

1. Does Cam put us in position to win more or lose more?

2. Since he has been a starter how many loses do you blame on him? He Is 14-23 how many of the 23 is on his bad play?

3. What young QB drafted in the last 4 to 5 years would trade supporting cast with Cam?

example (Oline, WR, TE, RB, OC)

4. What team has done a worst Job then the Panthers of surrounding their young QB with weapons?

1) definitely win more

2) very few, maybe more in his rookie year than others just from inexperience

3) honestly I can't picture a QB that would trade straight up, maybe Gabbert? But he bloooooows.

4) the Jets? Do they count yet? Other than that, drawing a blank.

I'm really trying to answer these questions to the fullest and I can't come up with much to argue your points. I'm not a Cam hater tho. You won't be able to argue with them. Their answers will be questions and accusations in the negative form which are impossible to disprove like when someone is accused of being a homophobe or a racist. All you can say is huh-uh. God it's fun when we lose. :(

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picture this o-line with the bottom 75% of NFL quarterbacks under center throwing to these wide receivers. there's your answer

 

 

I see that every week

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