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I slowly keep getting interested in gruden.

Loves cam and who want him as his qb so cam wouldn't get phased out. Good.

Would develop a whole playbook for cam and this offense. Good.

Won a Super Bowl. Good.

Long complicated verbiage with play calling. Bad.

We will see though. Definitely need someone new and who can actually coach

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No one would give DG an interview

Some how we praise him as a great GM though. Anyone who goes into this season with our OL.....either has no faith in RR and knows he is gone (and doesn't want to waste resources on fixing our
holes).....or is crazy


He had actually interviewed with two other teams in recent years.

You want a legit coach? How about a guy whose defense took their team to the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman at QB? Who has brought the #1 defense to every team he's DC'd within 2 seasons of joining them?

See, coordinator success is great, but I'm ready for a proven HC with a track record.


You mean a guy like Jimmy Johnson, George Seifert, or maybe Mike Shanahan?

Those were guys with proven track records that teams turned to to guide them to the promised land.

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Dave Gettleman got passed over a lot too.

I don't know that he's been interviewed that much. There's always been a 'hotter name'.

That, plus he's known to be, shall we say, a bit direct. If you asked him "Do I look fat in this?" he'd likely answer "H-ll yes you look fat. S--t, that outfit makes your a-- look like a f--king hippo!" :blink:

 

Ron Rivera was passed over several times too. Do we even need to bring up Mike Shula's history? I'm seeing a trend here. Until our owner changes his philosophy and starts opening up his wallet for a real staff and not some cheap options, we're dead in the water.

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I slowly keep getting interested in gruden.

Loves cam and who want him as his qb so cam wouldn't get phased out. Good.

Would develop a whole playbook for cam and this offense. Good.

Won a Super Bowl. Good.

Long complicated verbiage with play calling. Bad.

We will see though. Definitely need someone new and who can actually coach


Gruden never developed a quarterback in his entire coaching career, and he took a Super Bowl team that Tony Dungy handed to him and ran it into the ground.

You don't wanna go down that road.

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Gruden would be an awful choice. I'd rather just hire Lovie Smith before getting that desperate.

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Ron Rivera is not the problem ! It's the team .
A) it is making me sick that everyone knows they need receivers but them.

B) brandon lafell is a bum ! Plain and simple he doesn't even deserve a roster spot

C) good job get rid of Beason.... Idiots... You cut Steve Smiths great long time friend and ironically he blows the game.. Think about it.

D) in the last two madden football games If you start a franchise with Carolina, Steve Smith retires after the first season .... Maybe he should play a season and get the picture

E) Hardy thinks he is better than he actually is. He would be lucky if Peppers let him wipe the sweat from his sack

F) we DO NOT need Stewart, Williams and Tolbert . Trade 2 of em for a wr

G) the o-line sucks

H) needs to face it he is just another running QB, be what you are. It's working for Pryor

I) our defense is great and so is kuechly , it's all offense ( this year )

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Ron Rivera is not the problem ! It's the team .
A) it is making me sick that everyone knows they need receivers but them.

B) brandon lafell is a bum ! Plain and simple he doesn't even deserve a roster spot

C) good job get rid of Beason.... Idiots... You cut Steve Smiths great long time friend and ironically he blows the game.. Think about it.

D) in the last two madden football games If you start a franchise with Carolina, Steve Smith retires after the first season .... Maybe he should play a season and get the picture

E) Hardy thinks he is better than he actually is. He would be lucky if Peppers let him wipe the sweat from his sack

F) we DO NOT need Stewart, Williams and Tolbert . Trade 2 of em for a wr

G) the o-line sucks

H) needs to face it he is just another running QB, be what you are. It's working for Pryor

I) our defense is great and so is kuechly , it's all offense ( this year )


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Gruden never developed a quarterback in his entire coaching career, and he took a Super Bowl team that Tony Dungy handed to him and ran it into the ground.

You don't wanna go down that road.


Why do people give all credit to Dungy for building that SB team but forget to give credit to Gruden for building the other Super Bowl team?

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Coughlin is not coming to Carolina.  He has two Superbowl rings and a solid regular season record.  He's been successful everywhere he's been.  Why would a 67 year old coach want to come to one of the worst franchises in the NFL to crap on the twilight of his HOF career?

 

Oh I don't think he would either.  I was just saying, it might not seem like a good move but I would actually be all for it.  The chances are one in a million, but I think it would be good for this team.

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Gruden never developed a quarterback in his entire coaching career, and he took a Super Bowl team that Tony Dungy handed to him and ran it into the ground.

You don't wanna go down that road.


Winning is winning no matter how it happens.

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Winning is winning no matter how it happens.


Winning is something that the Bucs did less of as Gruden's tenure went on. In six seasons after the Super Bowl, the Bucs only made the playoffs twice and were one and done both times.

After his final season, players on the Bucs hated him so much they went to the owners and said 'him or us'. They dumped Gruden.

Add in that he had zero success developing any young quarterbacks. Why exactly would you want a guy with that track record in charge of Cam?

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Winning is something that the Bucs did less of as Gruden's tenure went on. In six seasons after the Super Bowl, the Bucs only made the playoffs twice and were one and done both times.

After his final season, players on the Bucs hated him so much they went to the owners and said 'him or us'. They dumped Gruden.

Add in that he had zero success developing any young quarterbacks. Why exactly would you want a guy with that track record in charge of Cam?


I guarantee you newton is a more talented qb then what gruden had to work with. But your right lets go with another dc whose defense is always one and done

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