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#1 Happy Panther

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:52 AM

You can't make this stuff up. We can drop black op troops anywhere in the world and seize citizens of other countries because... it is legal under US law.

 

Awesome!

 

 

http://www.washingto...e110_story.html

The capture of an alleged al-Qaeda operative outside his home by Special Operations forces in Tripoli on Saturday and his secret removal from Libya was a rare instance of U.S. military involvement in “rendition,” the practice of grabbing terrorism suspects to face trial without an extradition proceeding and long the province of the CIA or the FBI.

 

The Libyan government on Sunday condemned what it called the “kidnapping” of one of its citizens after Ruqai, known by the alias Anas al-Libi, was forced out of his car and bundled away by men his brother described as foreign-looking “commandos.

 

 

 

 

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Kerry said the weekend seizure in Tripoli of suspected Al-Qaeda operative Nazih al-Ragye, better known as Abu Anas al-Libi, complied with U.S. law.
 
He said the suspect was a "legal and appropriate target" for the U.S. military and will face justice in a court of law.

 

 

 



#2 PanthersBigD

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:08 AM

When have we ever not been able to do this? I want our government grabbing guys like this off the street, no matter where they are. If you want to work for a global terror network, then don't be surprised when we find you no matter what part of the world you're hiding in.



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:13 AM

When have we ever not been able to do this? I want our government grabbing guys like this off the street, no matter where they are. If you want to work for a global terror network, then don't be surprised when we find you no matter what part of the world you're hiding in.

 

What would your position be if Chinese special forces dropped in and grabbed a few of our citizens? Your reckon Kerry would say it is justified under Chinese law?

 

And how do you know these guys work for a global terror network? Because your government said so?

 

Can't get fooled again...

 

Hint: Most of the bad guys we rendition aren't terrorists.



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:11 PM

We would probably have an extradition agreement that was negotiated. I'm not a fan of this stuff at all but how do we manage this stuff in the real world?

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:20 PM

We would probably have an extradition agreement that was negotiated. I'm not a fan of this stuff at all but how do we manage this stuff in the real world?

 

I think in these rendition cases, extradition is specifically ignored:

 

the practice of grabbing terrorism suspects to face trial without an extradition proceeding

 



#6 PanthersBigD

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 01:58 PM

We would probably have an extradition agreement that was negotiated. I'm not a fan of this stuff at all but how do we manage this stuff in the real world?

 

This is pretty much where I am. I am glad we have the capability to do it, but I am disappointed in our government's abuses of that capability. I think it's necessary some of the time, but not all of the time. Still, I don't feel that any abuses of the rendition process warrant us taking them off the table completely.



#7 thefuzz

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 02:26 PM

I wonder if we will see the day that the US is no longer the World Police/Bully?



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:24 PM

So what if this guy was, say, the leader of the group that attacked the consulate there?

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:32 PM

Double post

#10 carpantherfan84

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:53 PM

lol,

 

'MERICA!!!!!



#11 Porn Shop Clerk

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:58 PM

So what if this guy was, say, the leader of the group that attacked the consulate there?

 

what if saddam had yellow cake?



#12 stirs

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:13 PM

Ya'll lighten up on Kerry

 

You didn't know he served in Vietnam?

 

Also, CWG the pragmatic one in this thread.  Funny as can be.

 

Did I mention that John Kerry served in Vietnam?



#13 Saxist Fed

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:57 PM

 

Did I mention that John Kerry served in Vietnam?

 

Nope I don't believe you did



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 07:58 PM

what if saddam had yellow cake?

 

You are trying to compare capturing a guy that we've obviously done a lot of intel on and found worth this trouble to get, with invading a sovereign nation at the cost of thousands of lives and billions of dollars based on intel everyone knew was not iron clad at the very least.



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 08:48 PM

so the severity of the transgression is why this is acceptable behavior




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