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#13 ARSEN

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:41 AM

Incorrect. Islam was started around 600ad. They only claim in their dogma to have been started much earlier. Thats like saying if I wrote I was actually born in 1900 it would be true.


Always tho Ishmael was responsible for Islam but it makes sense.

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:41 AM

Islam is way older than that... Ishmael the son of Abraham who is mostly responsible for starting Islam. Islam as religion never took off until Muhammad.

sorry, but no.

 

People in the middle east prior to Islam were followers of other Abrahamic religions (Christianity or Judaism), or they were followers of local polytheistic religions. Muhammad founded the religion in Mecca, but he was driven out by the followers of the local dominant religion. He retreated to Medina and his followers later to Ethiopia where the Christian king there gave them sanctuary.

 

Islam itself started with Muhammad around 600 AD. It incorporated much of the foundation of the other Abrahamic religions, so I suppose you can say its roots are much older than 600 AD, but the religion itself is not.



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:42 AM

Also, Romans prohibited Christianity. That's why Dead Sea scrolls were hidden in the caves. Dead Sea scrolls are carbon dated from 308 BC to 70 AD and actually confirm many biblical stories.

 

The dead sea scrolls have nothing to do with Christianity. They were older jewish writings.



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:45 AM

The dead sea scrolls have nothing to do with Christianity. They were older jewish writings.


I read how they had writing about crucifixion of messiah.

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:49 AM

I read how they had writing about crucifixion of messiah.

 

As far as I know thats all based on a vague psalms passage about piercing hands and feet.



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:51 AM

http://uk.prweb.com/...web11201273.htm

 

 

 

For anyone interested in world religions this is a pretty interesting take.

 

Seemed Tinderbox worthy as some of you are well versed in spotting government propaganda.

 

It didn't take long for the peacefulness to wear off. There is nothing more violent than a group of people who think they are doing something in the name of good....or a God



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:58 AM

If the Roman Empire created Christianity, why didn't the empire embrace it until Constantine legalized it in 313?

Maybe covered in the article but admittedly didn't read.

 

Also if created to combat Judaism....how did they pull it off in the heart/center of Judaism



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 09:01 AM

If the Roman Empire created Christianity, why didn't the empire embrace it until Constantine legalized it in 313?

Maybe covered in the article but admittedly didn't read.

 

Politics I'm sure.  Augustus set a big precedence for pandering to the plebs.  



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 09:10 AM

It doesn't matter who's right and who is wrong we will all find out the truth in due time ....

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 09:13 AM

It doesn't matter who's right and who is wrong we will all find out the truth in due time ....

 

Unless we all just rot in the ground when we die, in that case, no one will find out the truth in any amount of time.



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 09:24 AM

 

 

Atwill asserts that Christianity did not really begin as a religion, but a sophisticated government project, a kind of propaganda exercise used to pacify the subjects of the Roman Empire.

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Atwill regards his evidence as conclusive and is confident its acceptance is only a matter of time.

 

Meh, I'll stick with "Man From Earth" as my alternate Christianity origin story. (It should still be on Netflix) Makes more sense than this.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 09:27 AM

Scientology FTW