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You have a magic wand. You can fix ONE thing about the Panthers. What do you do?

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All of you idiots saying trade Cam are showing your true colors. If your problem with Cam really was his QB skills, you'd fix that rather than just trade him for someone else.

Don't you think luck is better then cam? Id rather have luck, but would take cam over all the other young guys. Saying you'd rather have luck isn't really bagging on cam. But according to your wand theory, id pick have every single starter be the best at their position and willing to play for league minimum and all the backups being the second best

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Start the season over with our new head coach Kevin Sumlin!

 

Given how our GM feels about college type offenses, I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

 

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You have a magic wand and can fix ANYTHING on the Panthers, and you explicitly say you want to turn Cam into an "average" or "above average" quarterback in the 4th? Either you really lack creativity and ambition, or this thread was your "subtle" way of saying you think Cam is a huge choke artist.

Cam being average late would be good enough. Fair is fair, more times then not he is garbage in the second half of games.

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I would fix the problem that the Carolina Panther management cannot decide which is more important - the won-loss record and overall health of the franchise  -  or  - Cam Newton's career. 

 

They need to go one way or the other.  Cam may be a great QB "someday" but it will be measured in years - not in weeks.  He is not an Andrew Luck or like the rookie QB with Seattle.

 

I understand there are people who made choice to pick Cam in the draft and my guess is they are too heavily invested in him to admit he is not and will not provide playoff foot for Carolina now or for at least 3-4 years.  Super Bowl - probably never.

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Don't you think luck is better then cam? Id rather have luck, but would take cam over all the other young guys. Saying you'd rather have luck isn't really bagging on cam. But according to your wand theory, id pick have every single starter be the best at their position and willing to play for league minimum and all the backups being the second best

 

No, I don't think Luck is necessarily better than Cam.  But my point was that if you "magically" fix what's wrong with Cam he becomes infinitely better than Luck.  And that would be far preferable to having Luck.

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No, I don't think Luck is necessarily better than Cam. But my point was that if you "magically" fix what's wrong with Cam he becomes infinitely better than Luck. And that would be far preferable to having Luck.

Luck is on par or better then cam in every single aspect except running. He is just as fast as cam though. Just light years ahead as a qb. Sucks to say but its the truth. I thought it was a weak schedule last year, but here we are again. Colts 4-1 Panthers 1-3. Panthers probably have better overall players. Qb and coaching are the difference.

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Realistic magic wand: Fire Rivera & hire an NFL caliber coach & staff who can also pull the best out of Cam.

 

Unrealistic:  Give the team a new owner who does not believe the way to do business is keeping unproductive people just b/c you like them.

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Luck is on par or better then cam in every single aspect except running. He is just as fast as cam though. Just light years ahead as a qb. Sucks to say but its the truth. I thought it was a weak schedule last year, but here we are again. Colts 4-1 Panthers 1-3. Panthers probably have better overall players. Qb and coaching are the difference.

 

Luck isn't on par or better than Cam in every aspect except running.  First of all, having a similar 40 time doesn't make Luck even comparable at running.  Cam has an elusiveness Luck doesn't have.  Cam is stronger and able to shed tackles much better than Luck.  Luck might be a little better than Cam in some areas of passing, but it's far from light years.  I'd agree that the Panthers have a better team around Cam than Luck has with two exceptions:  O-line and WRs.  I'd give Indy a slight edge in the WR department, with Wayne and Smitty cancelling out (or Wayne even having a slight edge with the way Smitty played last game) and I'd give a definite edge to having TY Hilton over Lafell.  I like Lafell and I think he'd make a good #3 for us, but he's not a consistent enough threat to be a good #2.

 

There's no better or simpler way to compare them as passers than to look at their rookie years.  Cam definitely had the better rookie year, with Luck only barely beating Cam's passing yards record but taking 100 more passes to do it and having a worse completion %, worse YPA, worse TD-INT ratio.  Basically the only thing Luck beat Cam in was total passing yards, which isn't that hard considering how much more he threw it.  And all that with Luck having an obviously superior coaching staff, which isn't an insignificant difference maker.

 

Bottom line, wins and losses aren't a QB stat.  They're a team stat.  And the difference between the Colts and Panthers isn't QB and coaches.  It's just coaches.

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