Perfect OC for next year? JR/DG Please read.

[Ruff 3,836]

I think theres more to knowing who is a good coordinator than a fan looking at a few stats.

 

Nailed it.

[Dash Global 139]

I'm not a fan of Cameron, but I don't think he could be the worst hire we could make for OC.

 

However, and again we go back to this, DG and JR are not going to pick their OC separately from the HC. The HC picks his staff, because he wants autonomy. He will want to know that he has the free reign to hire the people that he thinks will best help our team to win.

 

How could you not be a fan of a guy that basically averages a top 10 offensive unit? 

 

I know the FO is not gonna pick the coordinator separately. 

 

Even though I disagree with that philosophy. 

 

Obviously the most proven / talented guy will help our team to win the best. Regardless of past ties. 

 

Sadly HC's do not attempt to get the "best" guy. Instead they go for their buddies or people they have connections with. 

 

I am merely throwing out who I think would make the best realistic (if we wanted him) OC option. 

 

Not who is most likely to be hired. 

[Jackofalltrades 9,269]

Isn't he the guy that got booted in favor or Jim Caldwell in Balt- that ended up saving their season and leading to the SB?

 

That Cam Cameron?

[Dash Global 139]

I think theres more to knowing who is a good coordinator than a fan looking at a few stats.

 

How else are you gonna judge a coordinator if not by his results coordinating? 

 

Or simply put, what is the better gauge for measuring an OC?

[Mr. Scot 34,196]

Jackson was interviewed for the Panthers OC job this year before it went to Shula. As I recall, word was that he was pretty interested in the job too.

For those of you who have seen his clips from Hard Knocks, I have to imagine his personality played a role in Rivera's decision not to hire him.

[Ruff 3,836]

How could you not be a fan of a guy that basically averages a top 10 offensive unit? 

 

I know the FO is not gonna pick the coordinator separately. 

 

Even though I disagree with that philosophy. 

 

Obviously the most proven / talented guy will help our team to win the best. Regardless of past ties. 

 

Sadly HC's do not attempt to get the "best" guy. Instead they go for their buddies or people they have connections with. 

 

I am merely throwing out who I think would make the best realistic (if we wanted him) OC option. 

 

Not who is most likely to be hired. 

 

>Not who is most likely to be hired

>realistic

 

um, okay?

 

Sure, he has really good stats, but his offenses never win when it matters. The Ravens fired him, ended up making a push to (and winning) the Super Bowl.

 

San Diego never accomplished anything in the playoffs with him at the helm (and Norv Turner helping call plays).

 

How about the fact that, during his stint as a head coach, he never finished with a winning record. Anywhere. Not in college. Not with Miami.

 

Again, I didn't say the guy wasn't good. He is decent. I'm just not a fan of him.

[Ruff 3,836]

Isn't he the guy that got booted in favor or Jim Caldwell in Balt- that ended up saving their season and leading to the SB?

 

That Cam Cameron?

 

That would be the one.

[csx 6,842]

How else are you gonna judge a coordinator if not by his results coordinating?

Or simply put, what is the better gauge for measuring an OC?

Start with having the intricate knowledge of the game that the coaches who have spent their life involved with it have. Take into consideration style and philosophy, previous familiarity and the systems compatibility with the players you want to build around.

[Dash Global 139]

>Not who is most likely to be hired

>realistic

 

um, okay?

 

Sure, he has really good stats, but his offenses never win when it matters. The Ravens fired him, ended up making a push to (and winning) the Super Bowl.

 

San Diego never accomplished anything in the playoffs with him at the helm (and Norv Turner helping call plays).

 

How about the fact that, during his stint as a head coach, he never finished with a winning record. Anywhere. Not in college. Not with Miami.

 

Again, I didn't say the guy wasn't good. He is decent. I'm just not a fan of him.

 

Realistic as in we could realistically hire him if we wanted to. Coaching college, from NC, etc. 

 

Not realistic as in who I think JR / new HC will hire. 

 

Two different angles / measures of the word "realistic". 

 

There are so many factors that play into winning in the playoffs. 

 

The only one thing a OC has control over is offense / scoring points, for which Cameron averaged basically a top 10 unit. 

 

What he did as a HC is irrelevant as coordinating and HCing are two different things and we wouldnt hire him as a HC to being with. 

 

Again, I am asking who do you think is a better OC that CAR could realistically hire next year if the FO/HC wanted them?

[Dash Global 139]

Start with having the intricate knowledge of the game that the coaches who have spent their life involved with it have. Take into consideration style and philosophy, previous familiarity and the systems compatibility with the players you want to build around.

 

How exactly does one measure this? 

 

All I know is the dude knows offenses, produces top 10 units, and helps develop QBs.