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#1 DaveThePanther2008

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:07 AM

Alot of huddlers last week brought up the comments Gettleman made about pocket QBs being the best type of QB to win a superbowl. Many hinted that he'll let Cam walk or trade him before he resigns him.  

 

I don't think there is a chance in Hell Cam goes anywhere.  While Gettleman may be in charge I seriously doubt that Jerry would ever sign off on letting Cam go anywhere.

 

We all remember before the Draft Cam sat down with JR for quite some time.  You could call it an interview but I think it was just JR seeing what he was getting into.  Once he signed off on Cam unless Cam fails miserably I just don't see this ever happening.  

 

As much as it pains me,  Luck is not facing the sophomore slump and is pretty much all who we thought he was.  He's a gamer.

 

But, so is Cam.  Many talk about Cam not going through his progressions but on Lafell's TD, Lafell was the 3rd option so though it is only one instant, Cam is improving.

 

Cam's a Panther for life, we won't trade him, we won't let him walk and the sooner the fair weather fans get that through their thick skulls the better.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:14 AM

The sooner we put some real weapons around Cam the better and we will see just how good he can really be. Quite frankly Cam has played pretty damn well considering the circumstances. For the most part he still has Hurney's guys around him and is still in the developmental stage of his career. Though we are still at an early stage in the season and in the playoff hunt at the moment, I cannot help but get excited about this off-season though it is a bit premature.

 

Really hoping we go heavy on the offensive side of he ball in this year's draft and get him the protection and weapons he needs to truly succeed. Every other young quarterback has been surrounded by weapons to make their transition to the NFL easier. We haven't. Thankfully our defense is shaping up to be very good for a long time but we need a highly touted left tackle going forward, a good right tackle, a solid right guard, and more receiving threats for Cam. Hoping we address the tackle or receiving positions in the first and seconds rounds and continue to add depth throughout the remainder of the draft. Mike Evans or Sammy Watkins paired with Cam and a solid offensive line in front of him sounds so enticing. 

 



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:16 AM

Let Cam be Cam and put weapons around him. The wins will come. Defense keeps balling out more will come than just wins. Playoff wins. :)

#4 DaveThePanther2008

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:18 AM

I think our defense is in good hands right now.  I like the young defensive players and I agree about getting offensive in the draft. OL and WR are a must for us.

 

I agree his has done a great job with the limited staff on offense. 



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:25 AM

While it was completely fuging awesome, Cam's amazing rookie season was probably one of the worst things that could happen for a lot of the fans--and perhaps even Cam himself to a certain extent.  It made expectations extremely high and us forget just how raw he was when we drafted him.  And, while I love him to death and hate to say it... I think he bought into his own hype a bit after his rookie season (seriously, go watch some of his interviews from back then particularly the "safari" one and the Madden videos, etc.).  I mean I don't blame him a bit, he was a young kid on top of the world at the time coming off back-to-back National Championships, two undefeated seasons, a Heisman, a historical rookie campaign, the Pro Bowl, and endorsements out the wazoo.  All of it was pretty unprecedented.  He's definitely grown a lot since then.

 

It was generally accepted among the fanbase that he was going to be a project QB with ridiculous upside and potential for the future before we drafted him, and no one really expected him to do much his first year.  Yet there he goes guns-a-blazing from the get go and completely shattered all expectations of him going forward.  Now we're spoiled and expect him to be elite 5 games into his 3rd year.

 

The dude only had 1-year of D1 school experience, he pretty much jumped straight into the pros.  It's amazing what he's accomplished thus far, and he's still learning as opposed to other QBs who are more experienced and polished with their footwork, etc coming out.

 

Hell even still he's the best young QB in the game if you ask me.  He also is very serious about getting better, you can tell he legitimately wants to be one of the best and completely despises losing.



#6 DaveThePanther2008

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:26 AM

Let Cam be Cam......... Playoff wins. :)

 

 

I agree.  While he needs to learn to be a good pocket QB you cannot take away the natural talent to run.  There are very few QBs in this league (if any) that can run the way he does and with power to boot.  He smartly slides when necessary but can lower the shoulder and get physical when needed.

 

Even the designed runs help him.  I have noticed when he pops off a run or two.  He settles down.   

 

Its a gamble that he might get hurt but a pocket QB takes a gamble on being blind sided.   

 

I just hope Gettleman isn't trying to turn Cam into something he may never be.  

 

Let the man Run.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:53 AM

Shula is still finding his own identity. If we could put this D with the offense from the last half of last season we'd be nasty.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:01 AM

I agree. While he needs to learn to be a good pocket QB you cannot take away the natural talent to run. There are very few QBs in this league (if any) that can run the way he does and with power to boot. He smartly slides when necessary but can lower the shoulder and get physical when needed.

Even the designed runs help him. I have noticed when he pops off a run or two. He settles down.

Its a gamble that he might get hurt but a pocket QB takes a gamble on being blind sided.

I just hope Gettleman isn't trying to turn Cam into something he may never be.

Let the man Run.


The balance of plays on Sunday (run vs pass vs runs by Cam) was darn near perfect on Sunday.

That is the mix that develops Cam as a pocket passer, but also allows him to make plays with his athletic ability.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:03 AM

Shula is still finding his own identity. If we could put this D with the offense from the last half of last season we'd be nasty the best team in the league.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:11 AM

Tired of complaints about cams weapons. Smith, Olsen, Williams, tolbert all average to above average for NFL players. Lafell and Ginn adequate to average. That's six playmakers all of which new England would love to have. Get cam line help, way before adding "weapons".

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:12 AM

As much as it pains me, Luck is not facing the sophomore slump and is pretty much all who we thought he was. He's a gamer.


I agree 100% that Luck is a bright young QB with a great future.

But using the "Cam Newton" standard for sophomore slumps established by the experts last year, Luck is WITHOUT A DOUBT experiencing a sophomore slump.

The ONLY standard Luck is better than Cam on is TEAM wins.

The Colts have won aided by Luck's QB play.

The Panthers over the last 2+ years have, in general, lost DESPITE Cam's QB play.

Unless one is bringing previously held prejudices to their view of the situations, its plain to see.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:15 AM

Tired of complaints about cams weapons. Smith, Olsen, Williams, tolbert all average to above average for NFL players. Lafell and Ginn adequate to average. That's six playmakers all of which new England would love to have. Get cam line help, way before adding "weapons".


No they aren't. Olsen maybe.

Williams isn't above average. Smith isn't either anymore....not based on the role they are playing here.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:33 AM

Williams isn't above average.


He's top 10 in the league, give it a rest.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:35 AM

No they aren't. Olsen maybe.

Williams isn't above average. Smith isn't either anymore....not based on the role they are playing here.

 

Greg Olsen is arguably our best player on offense right now.

That says a lot.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:35 AM

He's top 10 in the league, give it a rest.

You holding on to one stat line.....doesn't make Williams an above average RB.

In his role as a 20 ish carry per game RB and 89 as a #1......neither are above average.

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