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#31 Floppin

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:06 PM

Didn't luck have a faster 40 then RG3, not sure I would call him lead foot.

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LOL No. fuging RG3 was a track star as well.

 

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Luck is very fast for a QB, only a tenth or so slower than Newton. 



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:41 PM

Panther related???

What about this one?

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:54 PM

you must be extremely bored to continue down this path day in, day out.

 

by the way

 

http://www.sportingn...newtons-40-time

Actually, Luck's official 40 is 4.67. This is only fast by TE/OL standard. And Luck looks like he's having a hernia when he runs. How you get off the line can help lower your time in the 40, that's why a lot of players gets coaching.  Cam is smooth with it. He's very natural and quick twitch and can juke defenders. Did you see his run against LSU 3 years ago?



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:58 PM

Actually, Luck's official 40 is 4.67. This is only fast by TE/OL standard. And Luck looks like he's having a hernia when he runs. How you get off the line can help lower your time in the 40, that's why a lot of players gets coaching.  Cam is smooth with it. He's very natural and quick twitch and can juke defenders. Did you see his run against LSU 3 years ago?

 

Whatever.

 

At the combine, lead footed or smooth and twitchy, they clocked the same time.
 



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:58 PM

I don't like white people either.


That said, not sure if you saw last night but Luck can run and escape the pocket just as easily as Cam.

Don't lie to yourself. Cam is a fast twitch guy with juking ability. The guy makes people look silly.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:06 PM

Whatever.

 

At the combine, lead footed or smooth and twitchy, they clocked the same time.
 

On the football field it's night and day. Cam also have extremely long leg which makes his center of balance higher. That's important. Tedd Ginn have a similar feature.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:08 PM

I don't like white people either.


That said, not sure if you saw last night but Luck can run and escape the pocket just as easily as Cam.

You're the only one talking about race.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:17 PM

Don't understand where you get Luck is "lead-footed".

He's athletic and mobile in the pocket and has decent quicks in the open field. He seems pretty strong too.

His body movement is weird. Looks like he wasn't put on this earth to run.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:23 PM

Luck also has a very high motor and intelligence and work ethic which is lacking in athletic QB's such as RG3, Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, Bridgewater etc. etc.


Luck also gives a calming vibe, which I don't get from any of those Qbs named. He does everything right and seems real, which can't be said about a lot of those other mobile qbs. He was asked after yesterdays game if the loss was bad & asked about the clinching INT. He said this loss is the worst because its fresh, & that's true. He also said you can't blame the WR for a lot of what happens because there is a lot of things that happen during the game in which the WR helps out the QB. I don't think the mobile QBs really understand the intangibles of the game as well as a Luck would. Also, the "mobile" Qbs are A, gonna have to be as big as Cam is, or B, theyll be playing with a serious injury some point early in their career. The positions gonna continue to be won by what goes on in the QBs head, the athletic stuff is cool & flashy, dunno if its a superbowl winning style though.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:25 PM

Luck also has a very high motor and intelligence and work ethic which is lacking in athletic QB's such as RG3, Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, Bridgewater etc. etc.

Good one. Keep reaching.

 

NASA and Los Alamos is looking for the intelligent type, he should leave football for the athletic types like RG3, Geno, and Manuel, you know, the less intelligent types. Maybe while Luck is at it he could figure out why he looks like a Neanderthal. Lol



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:32 PM

How do we know those things are lacking in RG3, Smith, Manuel, and Bridgewater?  

He is just pulling out his trump card. Who cares about intelligence, this is a sports where grown man hit each other senselessly. If someone is playing that sport they're probably at least a little dumb for even playing it. So it's more a comparison of who is less dumb rather than who is more intelligent. More like an oxymoron, like a smart janitor. Pretty funny, right?



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:33 PM

Luck is one of the last line of a dying breed of QB. The lead-footed, run like they're running on hot coal, pocket passers. I look around the college and even the high school landscape and it's my observation(and Trent Dilfer's) that the mobile QBs are taking over football. Not in number particularly but in quality NFL caliber talent. From 2011 to 2015, it is obvious that from all the top rated franchise caliber QB in the draft at least 1 or 2 dual threat. From 2011 to 2015 alone we had Cam, RG3, Kapaernick, Geno Smith, EJ manuel, Teddy Bridgewater, Tajh boyd, Brett Hundley, and Jameis Winston. And we're talking about every year here. Those guys are not just strong starters but dynamic franchising figure on and off the field. If this trend continue, what will happen to the Schaubs of the world whom 10 years ago were almost guaranteed a roster spot to just be a game manager.

 

What about T.Brady, P.Manning, were they really great or just product of playing against a bunch of Schaubs? You know, kind of like how so of Babe Ruth's number are questioned because his stats were garnered under a segregated leauge. What if Payton could run a 4.5, could he have won more than just one superbowl. Because I have watched so many of Peyton's game in the playoffs where he need just 3 yard to keep the drive alive but throws an in-completion because he couldn't run to save his life. Remember, a QB is an athlete too. Running and athlete goes hand in hand. Could Peyton have been the Michael Jordan of football instead of a constant debate? Because the Michael Jordan of football in the future will be able to do it all.

 

Now, back to my point, If Luck fails who is going to hold the torch for the so-called greats like Brady and Manning who are about to retire? I believe that is the lens that all the Luck supporters(not necessarily Colts fans) see this world of football. It's like, if Luck fails is there a place for us in this sport of football. Well, to those who see it that, for what it's worth, the QB position was NEVER necessarily meant as a niche for the the athletically challenged. Will football become a sports of athletic freaks like the NBA where no lead-footed, hot coal runners are allowed in? In conclusion, I can understand why the 'media' wants to hide or delay Luck's impending failure.

 

Luck will fail.

 

Dude, Andrew Luck is not a failure by any stretch of the imagination.  

 

I understand what you're trying to say (I think). But I disagree with your premise that pure pocket passers are somehow lesser QBs than more athletically gifted QBs. It all depends on the guy, and the situation.  Moreover, Luck is an athlete. He is not some lead-footed tortoise in the pocket that is unable to elude pressure by a step here or there, or straight take off down the field.

 

In my opinion, a better post would have been how the powers that be in the NFL been rethinking the role of mobile QBs, and their ability to effectively and successfully play the position.  Where you made your error was thinking that you have to put pure pocket passers down to prop up more mobile and athletic QBs that have ascended to a certain level of prominence in the league in recent years. 

 

There is room for both types of QBs, and particularly QBs that can do it all. But, at the same time, there will always be a place for pure pocket passers who are accurate and make good decisions.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:37 PM

Seriously, why hasn't this trolling dipshit been banned yet?

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:37 PM

Lol NO RG3 was a track star! Luck is a very mobile qb tho. And has trucked a few people in his day. He's just not as elusive or powerful as Cam. he's more of an Aaron Rodgers type of runner.

Which is not saying much, of course.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:39 PM

I just wanted to try the "race baiting troll" act out.

I feel dirty, not sure how KingCam keeps it up.

Well, you surely failed on that one.




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