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False equivalence: how 'balance' makes the media dangerously dumb


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#46 PhillyB

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 02:07 AM

Much better to have a unified media message telling us all what to think, right?

 

Like NBC telling us about exploding gas tanks and CBS having documents showing how W dodged the draft (miraculously written with MS Word before it was invented).

 

Sounds great :unsure:

 

he's not arguing that fair and balanced media is bad, he's arguing that fox news is not fair and balanced media



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 08:01 AM

Much better to have a unified media message telling us all what to think, right?

 

Like NBC telling us about exploding gas tanks and CBS having documents showing how W dodged the draft (miraculously written with MS Word before it was invented).

 

Sounds great :unsure:

 

Maybe those networks wouldn't be like that if there wasn't some mad rush to draw specific demographics with pseudo-news and opinion masquerading as fact.



#48 Mr. Scot

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:37 AM

he's not arguing that fair and balanced media is bad, he's arguing that fox news is not fair and balanced media

But these other outlets are okay? Why do they get a pass?

(and be real, you know why)


easy to see how people get caught up in a single-minded narrative as directed by power structures through media outlets and then let "common sense" operate within the constraints of that particular representation of reality


Which is what you're actually advocating as something that ought to happen, provided the "single minded narrative" agrees with your point of view. That's completely antithetical to a free society.

So yes or no Phil, do you want free speech or not?

And don't give me a cop out like "I want everyone believing the truth" because what you're really talking about is one single version of the truth, which you know good and well is impossible unless you're willing to force people to believe only the 'approved' point of view.

And if you're okay with that, I'm sure Leonid Brezhnev would approve :(

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:16 AM

i was going to respond to all the misrepresentations and misunderstandings of my statements that fill your post and then i just saw you actually almost baited me into explaining why i am not leonid brezhnev and realized it's probably hopeless