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Shula also deserves some credit for our stout D.


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#25 Chimera

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 11:51 PM

Why are the saints right behind us in TOP?

Must be that ball-control, ground and pound offense that somehow ends up with over 300+ passing yards in the box score every week


So you're telling me that our slow, methodical conservative offense, which averages 0.7 fewer plays per game and 0.3 fewer yards per play than the taints, still keeps opposing offenses off the field longer?

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 12:34 AM

I'm so glad you guys are so easily sold into this formula after defeating teams that have a combined one win six weeks into the season



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 12:42 AM

Dude, it's a good formula either way as long as we don't poo the bed in the redzone.  We've had bad luck there, but we get those points and we start to make the other team press.

 

Hell, honestly this isn't even anything new.  We did it the last half of 2012 too when we went on that winning streak and Cam was playing lights out.  Remember the 2nd Falcons game?  We executed it to perfection in that game and ended up 23-0 before they even knew what hit 'em.  Same thing with the Chargers game.



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 12:54 AM

Dude, it's a good formula either way as long as we don't poo the bed in the redzone. We've had bad luck there, but we get those points and we start to make the other team press.

Hell, honestly this isn't even anything new. We did it the last half of 2012 too when we went on that winning streak and Cam was playing lights out. Remember the 2nd Falcons game? We executed it to perfection in that game and ended up 23-0 before they even knew what hit 'em. Same thing with the Chargers game.


who cares? we need a qb with 5,000 passing yards

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 12:59 AM

It's a really basic concept. It's like saying we need to get interceptions because turnovers help you win.

 

There's a lot more going on to why we win games than just saying you need to do one thing or another. There is no correlation between TOP and championship wins. The last two were actually bottom ten.



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 01:12 AM

Well as far as I can remember every game since we started doing it and managed to convert in the redzone we've won pretty convincingly.  It fits our defense because they force a lot of 3 & outs then get even more time to rest.  Have an early long-scoring drive then we control the entire tempo of the game.

 

I don't see how anyone could think it's a bad formula.  If Steve doesn't drop that TD pass, and LaFell doesn't drop that 4th down pass then it likely would've been the same thing there... Cardinals offense starts to panic, takes pressure off of our offense, then we can just go into cruise control and methodically drive down the field.  Completely different ball game then.

 

But the offense poo the bed and everything got fuged from there.



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 02:04 AM

Key word here, SOME. Please dont get up in arms. Why you ask? Simple, nothing lifts a defense like a offense that keeps the ball nearly an entire quarter. God I love ground and pound, clock control offenses. Forget this basketball style, shoot out type offenses. I just love seeing offenses like ours that is super stingy with that football and doesnt like to give it back and just pounds it. I love seeing opposing defenses winded and tired and I love seeing our defense on the becnch relaxing for nearly an entire quarter.

This isnt the NBA, scores in the NFL arent suppose to be 42-55. Get the fug outta here with that mess. I dont think our D would have been as good with Chud still here because you just cant underestimate how much of a impact it has on a D that can rest on the bench for aslong as possible, and with ground and pound Shula ball, our D can do just that and im loving every minute of it.

I think this may be the best post you have ever made.



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 04:04 AM

Rivera is trying to fix the problems with loses late. He obviously credits the winded d-line to part of it and are fixing it with lowering the total play each game (your point) and letting the backups in play early. 

 

Still, you can eat clock on offense without breaking the huddle so late that you risk delay of game every other play.

 

Alexander-Short-Cole-Addison is a great backup line. Alexander-Short-Fua-Addison on the other hand is, well everybody that can read three letter word finds the problem.

 

So I for one agree with the strategy, just not the execution. 

 



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 04:20 AM

TOP is crucial in the NFL. Its something Chip Kelly may have to reconsider. The Eagles may sit at 3-3 today but the O and D are polar opposites. Its no coincidence their TOP and D are at the bottom.



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 09:52 AM

Why are the saints right behind us in TOP?

Must be that ball-control, ground and pound offense that somehow ends up with over 300+ passing yards in the box score every week


They are the master at the short passing game.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 11:50 AM

They are the master at dinking and dunking to a HB and TE then hitting a WR deep when you take out the HB and TE

FTFY
Same thing we did with Stephen Davis in 2003 (albeit running instead of short passes) and the Redskins did last season, and the Texans did in 2011.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 12:00 PM

I wonder how OP's logic holds up when we play teams that aren't New York, Buffalo, Minnesota.

 

 

Accept reality.