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#1 RoaringRiot

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 09:32 AM

What do you all think about the umps overturning the call last night?  I know it was the right call - that's not the question I'm asking.  Seems like an odd time for them to meet to overturn a call - in the World Series?!?  There have been so many bad calls over the years and MLB fans have been taught to live with the "human element", why change that now before any proper protocol is formally introduced?  



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 09:59 AM

Because MLB wants Boston to win the series, it's the perfect story with that and the Boston marathon thing.  They were already running segments before the game on it, and in the field is "B Strong".   Just like when the Saints were hand-held to the Super Bowl that year for Katrina, etc.

 

Conspiracy theories totally, but it wouldn't surprise me lol.



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 12:45 PM

While I agree that MLB probably does want Boston to win (more fans=more revenue for them), there is a 0% possibility that affected the call. You have to think professional umpires don't like being criticized by the media already more than they are. If that ump missed the call, and Boston lost that game, and lost the series because of it, he would be receiving death threats, which no umpire would want, so it makes sense for them to try and get it right for even personal reasons.

 

In terms of reversing the call, we have started to see that over the years from MLB. Instant replay has changed the game a bit, and umpires have changed calls before after they reviewed with each other. It's not like it was a first time thing that only happened in the World Series. It was a bad call, and it got changed. Anybody complaining about that shouldn't watch sports if they don't want the right call to happen.



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 01:06 PM

While I agree that MLB probably does want Boston to win (more fans=more revenue for them), there is a 0% possibility that affected the call. You have to think professional umpires don't like being criticized by the media already more than they are. If that ump missed the call, and Boston lost that game, and lost the series because of it, he would be receiving death threats, which no umpire would want, so it makes sense for them to try and get it right for even personal reasons.

 

In terms of reversing the call, we have started to see that over the years from MLB. Instant replay has changed the game a bit, and umpires have changed calls before after they reviewed with each other. It's not like it was a first time thing that only happened in the World Series. It was a bad call, and it got changed. Anybody complaining about that shouldn't watch sports if they don't want the right call to happen.

 

 

In case you didn't read my OP - we get that it was the right call.  I, however, can't remember very many occasions where a call was overturned in that kind of situation especially with that significance.  

 

Why wasn't Jim Joyce's call when he ruined that perfect game for the Tiger's pitcher overturned if it happens so frequently.   



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 01:15 PM

Or the blown infield fly call last year during the Braves game.  It was one of the worst calls I've ever seen and no one cared about fixing it.  That was in a one and done game too.   



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 01:27 PM

Or the blown infield fly call last year during the Braves game.  It was one of the worst calls I've ever seen and no one cared about fixing it.  That was in a one and done game too.   

 

 

Agreed.....bad calls are a part of MLB - which is why they're going to instant replay next year.  Which makes this call even more odd...



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 01:32 PM

In case you didn't read my OP - we get that it was the right call.  I, however, can't remember very many occasions where a call was overturned in that kind of situation especially with that significance.  

 

Why wasn't Jim Joyce's call when he ruined that perfect game for the Tiger's pitcher overturned if it happens so frequently.   

 

 

I think the big reason that they didn't overturn Joyce's call is because it was a split second decision, even if it was wrong. If you remember, the baserunner was obviously out, but the ball didn't pop out or anything along those lines. Because it didn't, you give the ump the benefit of the doubt. 

 

In this case, it was APPARENT to all the umps around that the ball was never in the glove, and you could even hear the crew chief say that the other 5 umps who saw it were 100% sure that it wasn't caught.

 

If you need examples of overturned calls in the past, you can look on youtube. just a quick search revealed 5 different times where umps overturned different calls




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