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Zac Stacy is an example of how poorly managed our Rb contracts are.

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teeray    16,227

Yes, they have one highly paid featured RB. Which is a normal way of doing things unlike Carolina

 

 

How many highly paid running backs?

 

We have two.

 

I understand that and agree.  The point of the OP was that we should pay neither Williams nor Stewart because a 5th round draft pick had a good game.

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French Navy    351

Is more of an example of getting lucky in the draft.

 

Seriously this. I bet teams with really shitty overpaid DTs are looking at us and droooooling. (oh wait that was us last year)

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micnificent28    583

they deserved there money DWill just out of his prime and Stewart was supposed to be doing for us what Lacy doing for Green Bay he's just never healthy.

But barner/tolbert is the future

This barner talk needs to br toned down by 12. What has he shown in any game that makes you think he's the future?. He was a sixth round pick who more than likely won't be on the team in 2 years. The team is just as likely to take a rb next year and dumb him. All draft picks aren't long term investments. Some are like rentals.

Tolbert is a solid between the tackles runner but I dout he's the future. The future at rb probably isn't on the roster.

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saX man    851

I think it's more simple than people make it out to be.  I trust Gettleman to sort the $$ out but just looking at the team, it's obvious DeAngelo still has it and Tolbert is a great change of pace bowling ball to have.  We could use that formidable scat-back and we are taking a shot with Barner.  Stewart is expendable and RBs aren't worth a lot anymore.

 

If they don't like Barner, an indicator will be going RB in the 4th-7th round next year.  I'm cool with whatever because DeAngelo is still doing well and Tolbert is a major asset to this offense.  

 

Given how Williams has been used in his career and what it looks like, he's relatively durable and is still kicking.  I'm not trying to draw comparisons but he's in some areas Tiki-like.  

 

 

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tiger7_88    13,918

Title.

The dude is a 5th round pick with almost 125yards against the seahawks. With players like him in the draft, there is literally no reason we should keep paying either DWill OR JStew.

Absolutely true.

Which is why I laughed my ass off when the Falcan'ts signed Steven Jackson to a 2 year deal last offseason rather than another quality OL or DL.

I laaaaaaaughed! :lol:

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csx    7,330

I understand that and agree.  The point of the OP was that we should pay neither Williams nor Stewart because a 5th round draft pick had a good game.

 

I didn't get that from the op's post. I took from it that there is talent to be found all over the draft at running back. If you can develop a way to find it and develop it there isn't much of a need to invest highly in the position in either the draft or in contracts later on in their careers.

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teeray    16,227

I didn't get that from the op's post. I took from it that there is talent to be found all over the draft at running back. If you can develop a way to find it and develop it there isn't much of a need to invest highly in the position in either the draft or in contracts later on in their careers.

So you didn't take the fact that he said we shouldn't be "paying D-Will or J-Stew" as him saying we shouldn't pay either?

I mean, other than the fact that is literally what he said...

For every Arian Foster, Morris, or Stacy there is about 100 other late round RBs that suck.

Nearly every good team in the NFL have very good RBs.

I agree with our new offense we shouldn't pay both, but you need good RBs to compete, and I don't believe in a plug and play will work unless you have a top 3 QB.

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TheRed    18,325

I am not including Stewart since he is a free agent after this year.

Um, he's under contract through 2017.

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panthers55    5,379

Um, he's under contract through 2017.

You are right.  It was Jon Beason whose contract voided after 2013.  I guess it was just wishful thinking given how little he has done for us the past couple of years..

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CelticCat    324

It's not a matter to talent. It's a matter of paying your RBs a combined like 17$mil in cap space. It doesn't work in the NFL anymore. Sure, I would rather have someone as talented as Stewart. But not at that price.

 

Fair enough. But its easy to say you don't want need Stu when he's standing on the sideline and the other guys are healthy.

 

How did we feel about 34 and 28 in 2009 when they had over 1000 yards apiece.

 

There are many ways to spend your cap. 34 and 28 were bargains for years. Today we are paying them. Today we are 4-3.

 

We are a winning team in the NFL, we run more than pass, it still works only Tolbert is our #2 at a much more manageable 2 mill a year.

 

I agree paying both wasn't the most prudent considering we are doing it with only 1 of them. Add in Tolbert and Cam and Hurney didn't have the best foresight.

 

The NFL is a funny game, just look at Beason and Davis , who'd have honestly thought Davis would be here longer than Beason. We made massive gambles with huge contracts at that position too. Wiser decision with the cap can be made throughout the squad. Does anyone not think Gman would have done a more favorable contract than the one Hurney gave CJ.

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