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Yeah "starter" for us doesn't mean much.

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this thread is more irritating than anything since there's so much money wasted on people we don't need..

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This is all a little presumptuous. Maybe I missed something but Stew isn't on the active roster. Maybe I missed something else but Deangelo hasn't been practicing with a leg injury. We need to let this play out before we even have this discussion.

 

And Stew doesn't deserve criticism from anyone. When he was healthy he busted his ass and ran people over. He literally ended a guys career with his buns of steel. Injuries are part of the position. If you are angry about the money then you should criticize Marty and Jerry.

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Doesn't matter who is the starter.

People need to stop acting like hurt princesses.

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This is all a little presumptuous. Maybe I missed something but Stew isn't on the active roster. Maybe I missed something else but Deangelo hasn't been practicing with a leg injury. We need to let this play out before we even have this discussion.

 

And Stew doesn't deserve criticism from anyone. When he was healthy he busted his ass and ran people over. He literally ended a guys career with his buns of steel. Injuries are part of the position. If you are angry about the money then you should criticize Marty and Jerry.

nothing to play out.   RR is going to bring 28 on the active roster.

 

Williams will be the token starter.

 

We will run a RB committee however, and each week likely a different RB will have the most time on the field

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nothing to play out.   RR is going to bring 28 on the active roster.

 

Williams will be the token starter.

 

We will run a RB committee however, and each week likely a different RB will have the most time on the field

Williams will be the starter and if he is effective will continue to get the lion's share of the carries.  If like last week he isn't as effective as Tolbert, then Tolbert will get more carries.  Stewart will get some as well to see where he is at.  If he comes on and has a good game or if Williams is still favoring his leg, then carries will change.  But Williams is the starter until other players show they deserve the carries more.  

 

 

You never miss a chance to minimize his role or take a shot at DeAngelo as if he did something to you personally.

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Williams will be the starter and if he is effective will continue to get the lion's share of the carries.  If like last week he isn't as effective as Tolbert, then Tolbert will get more carries.  Stewart will get some as well to see where he is at.  If he comes on and has a good game or if Williams is still favoring his leg, then carries will change.  But Williams is the starter until other players show they deserve the carries more.  

 

 

You never miss a chance to minimize his role or take a shot at DeAngelo as if he did something to you personally.

 

I didn't minimize anything.  You are trying to find something even when it isn't there.

 

Once everyone is healthy and ready.....there will be no such thing as a "starting" RB in reality.  Just one pegged as it.....and as I said, Williams has earned that.

 

Tolbert has seen more snaps than Williams in half our games almost.  When healthy, we will be a committee.....simple and plain.  Each week will dictate who sees the field most.  That being the case, when we have all 3 there is no starting RB.  It is a committee.

 

 I also doubt Stewart will be worthy of real reps until a few weeks from now.  

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Wonder what the rb snap count % was when we were 1-3 and then 3-0

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Wonder what the rb snap count % was when we were 1-3 and then 3-0

Tampa - Tolbert 38 snaps, Williams 30

Rams - Tolbert 39 snaps, Williams 34

Vikes - Williams 43 snaps, Tolbert 38

 

on the year, they have had played the exact same number of snaps.....

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Tampa - Tolbert 38 snaps, Williams 30

Rams - Tolbert 39 snaps, Williams 34

Vikes - Williams 43 snaps, Tolbert 38

 

on the year, they have had played the exact same number of snaps.....

Snaps mean nothing.  For example on how many plays are Williams and Tolbert in the backfield because Tolbert is blocking for Williams?  If they played the same position then it might be somewhat germaine.  Do we compare snaps between Olsen and Williams??  Why not?  They don't play the same position and one being on the field doesn't necessitate the other not being on the field.  If you want to compare them more appropriately then look at carries not snaps. 

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Snaps mean nothing.  For example on how many plays are Williams and Tolbert in the backfield because Tolbert is blocking for Williams?  If they played the same position then it might be somewhat germaine.  Do we compare snaps between Olsen and Williams??  Why not?  They don't play the same position and one being on the field doesn't necessitate the other not being on the field.  If you want to compare them more appropriately then look at carries not snaps. 

lol...you watch the games right?  You can count on one hand probably the number of times Tolbert has lined up to be Brad Hoover for Williams.

 

Go back and look at 2011.  Stewart played more SNAPS.  He played more SNAPS....b/c it was better for the OVERALL offense that he was on the field instead of Williams.  Stewart lead the division that year in percentage of snaps played.  Williams had more rush attempts.

 

You are so desperate to argue with me.....you are now taking a stance of WHO Carolina chooses to play doesn't matter, only carries.  Tolbert doesn't have to get a carry to impact things, just like Stewart didn't in 2011.

 

You are basically arguing it is irrelevant if Steve Smith plays WR....only things that matters is receptions.   Some odd logic.  SNAPS matter for Steve.  Not just coverage.  He still dictates things.  Not as comically as he did years ago but it all matters.

 

You argue too much for even me these days.   Good day sir.

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With the read option there is potential for multiple guys to get a touch on a given play. Who gets the touch is dictated by the defense and Cam's decision making. This is all a bit weird though I'm not sure it matters.

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