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#25 Kurb

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:32 AM

Now that I am awake I did have an error this morning.

 

 

 

Here is how Stewart would work out if cut. 

 

First Number is Cap Hit

Second Number is Dead Money if Cut

 

5,496,250              18,185,000               So the Panthers would LOSE roughly 13 Million in cap space

 

8,496,250              12,688,750              Panthers LOSE roughly 4 Million in cap space

 

9,746,250               6,192,500               Panther Gain roughly 3 Million in cap space.

 

 

The most likely event, if we are to lose one of the Running Backs, would be Williams is  cut next season. It would COST 3 million in space for next year or 1.5 million in space the next two if it was a June 1 designation. I find this highly unlikely, unless Stewart becomes Herschel Walker all of a sudden and he has no risk of future ankle issues. 

 

 

We will have Williams, Stewart, Tolbert, and Barner for next season. In 2015 Williams can be cut for basically no cap hit whatsoever (300K hit).  The next season Stewart can be cut and we save 3 million and the last of the Hurney Nightmare Offseason will be behind us.



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:37 AM

If Stewart is not cut or trade-able then I see no reason to rush him into much playing time. If he's going to be around they might as well make sure he is healthy for the following seasons.



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 12:02 PM

If Stewart is not cut or trade-able then I see no reason to rush him into much playing time. If he's going to be around they might as well make sure he is healthy for the following seasons.


I don't always agree with you, but I agree here. Stewart is gonna be here for another two seasons, at least. Might as well get him at 100% and benefit from what's left.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 01:21 PM

If Stewart is not cut or trade-able then I see no reason to rush him into much playing time. If he's going to be around they might as well make sure he is healthy for the following seasons.

maybe that is what they did....maybe he could of been back earlier.  



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 01:57 PM

Put it this way.....Bowling bowl has five td's this season......I believe stew and DLo have one combined. Bowling bowl did the same last season(even more td,s).....so if production and money talks,then it's obvious.Just like the Joker said in Dark knight after he broke the cue stick in half"we are having tryouts and there is one spot open"

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 02:09 PM

#AfterTheSeasonProblems

it's been a while since Panther fans haven't had to start looking into next season this far in the year, so much so, it has become a habit 



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 02:25 PM

Tolbert could handle the starting load himself and get 1000 yards but Id be ok with a DeAngelo, Tolbert combo. I say trade Stewart to the Browns for Gordon in the off season...lol



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 07:23 PM

Tolbert's contract doesn't even really affect us. 

 

He's like a 3 million cap hit at most for the length of the deal.http://www.spotrac.c...s/mike-tolbert/

 

Considering the level of play he brings, I think that's a good deal.

 

Some teams are know for their  WR ......we are know for our RBs  and i think we should keep this identity and grow on it. 



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 07:26 PM

For chain movin' and td scoring, he's our best asset behind Cam on offense.  I wrote about using him more after that Buffalo loss and I'm happy we have done so.  When we did last year, it worked wonders.  



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Posted 02 November 2013 - 06:28 AM

The foundation of this offense is the running game due to dynamics backs & Cams running ability...This gives us multiple option in the run game, especially during 3rd & 4th down conversion and goal line situation = winning games. 

 

We never imagined this off-season that Gettleman would bring us down under the cap like he did. I expect him to work his magic again this year and keep our backfield intact. I think we build on this offense through 2014 draft  (OG,OT, & WR) with elite defense already , we will have elite offense for years! :cam1:

 

If I were the GM, I would not have a RB on a second contract, unless AP was that RB. I would invest the savings in the OL.
 



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Posted 02 November 2013 - 06:32 AM

Some teams are know for their  WR ......we are know for our RBs  and i think we should keep this identity and grow on it. 

 

Right now, it is working for us, but I have to wonder if we are not simply using the resources Marty left us.   Cam is better when the running game is clicking (all qbs are).  Since we have not shown that we can win a game when the running game shuts down, it is imperative that we run the ball.

 

The line is better than advertised, and that will improve by healing next year (Silatolu, Kugbila, Williams, Campbell).  In addition, I think we will keep Scott and maybe Wharton.  Pretty solid depth.  If we draft a T, we will have a pretty awesome line.



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Posted 02 November 2013 - 02:24 PM

Some teams are know for their WR ......we are know for our RBs and i think we should keep this identity and grow on it.


We are now known for our QB....