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But some doctors use their religious or philosophical outlook to base this decision on which may contridict other doctors opinions.

At some point a legal decision has to be made. One group will decide that it's right, another will think there's a gun being held to it's head over a moral judgement call.

This is the point I am making, Abortion is just a very easy topic to show how this works.

good point. OK then...no abortion restrictions. I would rather convince someone that my morality is correct, rather than force my opinion on anyone.

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That makes sense from a logical/libertarian standpoint, but in reality there are plenty of libertarians who consider abortion a moral evil and exempt from adult decision making. This is the essence of politics today to me, the push and pull of emotional responses to logical issues.

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I blame global warming on an ever expanding sun.  Sun gets bigger, gravitational pull increases, earth gets closer to sun, earth gets warmer, easy!

 

 

tell the sun to stop growing - problem solved.

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Just as science does not have the information to determine when human life begins and/or ends, it does not have the requisite information to determine mankind's role in the earth's climate. As such, it cannot be ethically used to dictate policy on either issue. As climate science has yet to produce a viable predictive model to account for the requisite variance, to believe the punditry that man is causing what is claimed amounts to little more than religious zealotry. Hence the ethical evil of imposing one's morality on everyone else is a very apt comparison if you wish to make that with abortion law.

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Just as science does not have the information to determine when human life begins and/or ends, it does not have the requisite information to determine mankind's role in the earth's climate. As such, it cannot be ethically used to dictate policy on either issue. As climate science has yet to produce a viable predictive model to account for the requisite variance, to believe the punditry that man is causing what is claimed amounts to little more than religious zealotry. Hence the ethical evil of imposing one's morality on everyone else is a very apt comparison if you wish to make that with abortion law.

also, when money and politics are involved we all should cast a skeptical eye on their actions.
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Just as science does not have the information to determine when human life begins and/or ends, it does not have the requisite information to determine mankind's role in the earth's climate. As such, it cannot be ethically used to dictate policy on either issue. As climate science has yet to produce a viable predictive model to account for the requisite variance, to believe the punditry that man is causing what is claimed amounts to little more than religious zealotry. Hence the ethical evil of imposing one's morality on everyone else is a very apt comparison if you wish to make that with abortion law.

 

Approximately 95 percent of the people that study this stuff for a living say you are full of poo. And science is not morality. It's science.

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Approximately 95 percent of the people that study this stuff for a living say you are full of poo. And science is not morality. It's science.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2013/09/23/antarctic-sea-ice-hit-35-year-record-high-saturday/

 

 

Antarctic sea ice has grown to a record large extent for a second straight year, baffling scientists seeking to understand why this ice is expanding rather than shrinking in a warming world.

On Saturday, the ice extent reached 19.51 million square kilometers, according to data posted on the National Snow and Ice Data Center Web site.  That number bested record high levels set earlier this month and in 2012 (of 19.48 million square kilometers). Records date back to October 1978.

 

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Case in point: 30+ years of serious scientific research on the subject can easily be discredited by one data point posted in a blog.

 

This is the kind of stupidity people who spend their entire lives devoted to actual research have to deal with to get their work across.

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Case in point: 30+ years of serious scientific research on the subject can easily be discredited by one data point posted in a blog.

 

This is the kind of stupidity people who spend their entire lives devoted to actual research have to deal with to get their work across.

 

Welcome to full retard... you've now gone to absolutely nothing to contribute of substance on this matter

 

PS - Thanks for proving my point about religious zealotry

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Just as science does not have the information to determine when human life begins and/or ends, it does not have the requisite information to determine mankind's role in the earth's climate. As such, it cannot be ethically used to dictate policy on either issue. As climate science has yet to produce a viable predictive model to account for the requisite variance, to believe the punditry that man is causing what is claimed amounts to little more than religious zealotry. Hence the ethical evil of imposing one's morality on everyone else is a very apt comparison if you wish to make that with abortion law.

 

science is not an entity and it has no agency as such. this is a foundational point you and many others seem not to grasp and it's pretty clear how it effects your worldviews

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You guys can't honestly believe this man made co2 crap, can you? The earth naturally puts out about a trillion times more co2 each year than the entire human species, yet somehow we're the cause of climate change? Of course there are things that we've done and are doing that aren't helping the cause, but to blame this situation solely on us is naïve and ridiculous. The obvious answer here is the sun...which unfortunately for the state, cannot be taxed.

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see twylight you have a helpful ally in your quest to replace science with venomish logic

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