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Brian Billick -> here is a freaking chart for Cam's "flat ball" (season long observation, not a gameday)


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#16 usmcpanthers

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 05:43 PM

This is the criticism Brett farve always had..he will be a HOF'er. I'd love for Cam to have a similar career

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 05:45 PM

Also on a weird note... We have won every game billick announced so far

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 05:49 PM

It used to be that we couldn't win a game if Cam threw even 1 pick. He throws 2 today and we still came out on top. I'll take it every day of the week and twice on Sunday.



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 05:50 PM

NFL Newtork, also confirmed (via Rivera's Presser) that Smith ran the wrong route on Cam's 2nd INT. Billick and his side kick couldn't even point this out, though it was clear to me when it happened.

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 05:58 PM

The point that he's making, and it's a correct one, is that flat throws provide less of a margin for error. They travel faster and don't allow WR to adjust beneath the ball. You don't throw a ball of trash into a garbage can as hard as you can throw it. You put some loft on it and drop it in. On throws where Cam has guys uncontested down the field, he needs to get better at dropping it behind coverage and not trying to put it on a line directly to his guy. The margin for error is more negotiable that way. There are a lot of throws that need that urgent delivery, but there are a lot that don't too. Cam throws the ball as hard as he can virtually all the time. Part of learning to be a great QB is touch passing. He'll get there, but Billick's observations are spot on.

 

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 06:00 PM

Billick was completely biased for the Falcons all game, but will still pull the "Panthers undefeated when I'm calling their games" crap. That guy is such a douche.



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 06:02 PM

I swear it seems as if there is sme desire to always put Cam's week performance under a damn magnifying glass. FYI, every QB has idiosyncrasies that cause them to do things. I don't get why you folks believe Cam needs to get rid of his or he fails as a QB. Every week someone finds somethng wrong with Cam the person or his game. It's getting fugging ridiculous.

 

Your team WON despite Cam's two Int. What that says to me is this team is growing and maturing as a team. They are not defining their win on their QB's mistake free game nor should you. What I see is a team finally figuring out that winning isn't just about Cam having a good day. it's all hands on deck every single week. IMO, all you folks are doing is making it easy for those who already label Cam a "BUST" and is doing everything in their power to prove themselves right.

34-10 Panthers is the score. Well done Panthers. Get off of Cam's manhood Panthers' fans.

 

Cam is the QB of the team we all love.  The QB primarily gets all the attention (love, hate or honest critique).  Just be happy other people love your team as much as you do & stop acting like it is sacrosanct to critique a QB who did not play as well as we have come to expect in the past few games.

 

Why is it that so many on here think it's okay to worship Cam when he has good games, but not okay to critique him if his play leaves something to be desired?

 

If he was Derek Anderson, nobody would expect much..he is Cam Newton & we all expect a lot b/c of who he is.
 



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 06:06 PM

I am not smart enough to understand that graph.


Probly because your name is jopie

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 06:20 PM

Cam is the QB of the team we all love.  The QB primarily gets all the attention (love, hate or honest critique).  Just be happy other people love your team as much as you do & stop acting like it is sacrosanct to critique a QB who did not play as well as we have come to expect in the past few games.

 

Why is it that so many on here think it's okay to worship Cam when he has good games, but not okay to critique him if his play leaves something to be desired?

 

If he was Derek Anderson, nobody would expect much..he is Cam Newton & we all expect a lot b/c of who he is.
 

 

Maybe it's you who need to relax and let your QB just play his game. So what Cam didn't throw any Ints in the past three games. You now believe he never will or shouldn't ...GTFO

 

You  folks seem to come up with all kinds of reasons why you can't seem to get off your QB's ass. Why can't you find it in your rational to criticize the rest of the team the why you seem to enjoy doing with Cam. Tom Brady just over threw...way overthrew a ball. What does that mean? Not a damn thing. I seriously doubt the Pats fans a sitting there creating endless threads of that throw. The great Drew Brees threw two fugging Ints and his team lost, again, i doubt the Saints fans are creating endless threads over it.SMFH 

 

FYI, the only reason why those in the media criticize Cam for every ish he does is because they're encouraged to do so by those who believe Cam is to talented and has had way to much success in their opinion. They stated from his days in the draft, that he will not succeed if they have anything to do with it. They believe he has been "to successful" in his college years and It's their mission to make sure he "earns" his NFL accomplishments. I  guess their desire to nitpick and criticize every ish he does is their way of keeping him under their magnifying glass so they can continue to push their view that he's not and will never be an NFL QB. Why are some of you fans doing the same?



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 06:38 PM

I love that an off day from our QB is 2 TDs and nearly 300 yards total.

 

I mean, it was an off day - he was missing high, or that game would have been even more of a blow out - but it's nice to have that kind of quality of player.

 

It's also nice to have a D that can recover from INTs.

 

I remember last year when we had posters here saying that no team ever wins when QBs have turnovers.  Welp, that's bullshit...All the great QBs have off days but they find ways to put up points and their team finds ways to win.

 

We won't get away with playing like this vs NE or SF, but that's okay.  One game at a time, and this was a good one.

It kind of reminds me of Pittsburgh and Roethlisburger when they went on their Superbowl run.  At times he was very good and other times a different guy.  But the defense was consistently good and kept them in all their games.  The quarterback can make mistakes trying to make a play and the defense will make up for it with a big play or critical stop.  Because the defense doesn't give up many points the offense doesn't have to score on every drive and feels less pressure to force it.  Cam looked much better when he threw more short and intermediate routes and took what the defense was giving him.  Good enough to put up points and control the clock.  Just what you need.



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 06:39 PM

Maybe it's you who need to relax and let your QB just play his game. So what Cam didn't throw any Ints in the past three games. You now believe he never will or shouldn't ...GTFO

 

You  folks seem to come up with all kinds of reasons why you can't seem to get off your QB's ass. Why can't you find it in your rational to criticize the rest of the team the why you seem to enjoy doing with Cam. Tom Brady just over threw...way overthrew a ball. What does that mean? Not a damn thing. I seriously doubt the Pats fans a sitting there creating endless threads of that throw. The great Drew Brees threw two fugging Ints and his team lost, again, i doubt the Saints fans are creating endless threads over it.SMFH 

 

FYI, the only reason why those in the media criticize Cam for every ish he does is because they're encouraged to do so by those who believe Cam is to talented and has had way to much success in their opinion. They stated from his days in the draft, that he will not succeed if they have anything to do with it. They believe he has been "to successful" in his college years and It's their mission to make sure he "earns" his NFL accomplishments. I  guess their desire to nitpick and criticize every ish he does is their way of keeping him under their magnifying glass so they can continue to push their view that he's not and will never be an NFL QB. Why are some of you fans doing the same?

 

Wow dude, you really have a man-crush on Cam.  Some of us are fans of 'the game', not just of individual players.  If you don't like it, just move on.  I like Cam as well, or better than many, Panther fans, but just b/c I like a player doesn't mean I become blind to reality.  Yes Cam's a very good, if not great player, but he has flaws.  Do you think being a fan is 'only' the rah-rah stuff?!  Get over yourself.
 



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 06:45 PM

billick is just not very good regardless if he says negative things about the panthers. he fugs up players names half the time. he at one time said luke kuechly tackled a panthers reciever simply because he saw the atl defender was wearing number 59. the dude is senile



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 06:57 PM

Billick was completely biased for the Falcons all game, but will still pull the "Panthers undefeated when I'm calling their games" crap. That guy is such a douche.

Seemed pretty objective to me.

Must be listening to the game through homer ears

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 07:42 PM

Maybe it's you who need to relax and let your QB just play his game. So what Cam didn't throw any Ints in the past three games. You now believe he never will or shouldn't ...GTFO

 

You  folks seem to come up with all kinds of reasons why you can't seem to get off your QB's ass. Why can't you find it in your rational to criticize the rest of the team the why you seem to enjoy doing with Cam. Tom Brady just over threw...way overthrew a ball. What does that mean? Not a damn thing. I seriously doubt the Pats fans a sitting there creating endless threads of that throw. The great Drew Brees threw two fugging Ints and his team lost, again, i doubt the Saints fans are creating endless threads over it.SMFH 

 

FYI, the only reason why those in the media criticize Cam for every ish he does is because they're encouraged to do so by those who believe Cam is to talented and has had way to much success in their opinion. They stated from his days in the draft, that he will not succeed if they have anything to do with it. They believe he has been "to successful" in his college years and It's their mission to make sure he "earns" his NFL accomplishments. I  guess their desire to nitpick and criticize every ish he does is their way of keeping him under their magnifying glass so they can continue to push their view that he's not and will never be an NFL QB. Why are some of you fans doing the same?

 

I keep trying to tell you football. This fan base, much like, the 49ers, Seahawks, Redskins, and Jets are not interested in rooting for their starting QB as much as they are simply tolerating them as long as they are winning. They have no desires to see the young man grow and get better and watch him make mistakes. Now if this were Sam Bradford, or Luck, or Stafford, or even Dalton and Gabbert absolutely. They would feel like those QBs are a part of their fandom...their reason for rooting for the ultimate success of their team. Fans of the Panthers, 49ers, Seahawks, Redskins, and Jets are far more interested in finding ways to replace the Front office and coaches "mistakes" and will nitpick if they have to.

 

A great number of the fans of these teams are deathly afraid their favorite team will be "suck" with a QB, who at the very best, they cannot relate to, and in some cases do not think should be even playing QB in the NFL.

 

The reaction on display here is no different than what goes on the 49ers, Seahawks, Washington, Philly (when Vick plays) or Jets message board after a win. Suddenly the fans of those teams expect perfection of their QBs. I wonder why the Titan's fan base has become this patient fan base with Locker, but when Vince Young was there it was..."well anything less than the Superbowl and Vince throwing for 500 yards and 6 tds is unacceptable." Go to the Titans message board...think they complaining about Locker's ints? Of course not, they won the game. "Their" guy was good enough and that is all that matters.

 

Once again, what we see here is no different than any other message board starting a QB that a majority of the fans do not look like.



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 07:46 PM

Cam wasnt that bad today.




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