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#11 unicar15

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 10:03 PM

I feel for you, I do. But I don't really understand how the tests were different and prejudicial to your player...


Well take for instance a kid that goes to school in NC and has made Ds in a number of his classes but his GPA is still around a 2.5 and is doing well enough to graduate from his particular high school. Then, look at Lorenzo Brown's transcript for instance and he has made the same number of Ds as the aforementioned NC kid, has the same GPA, and isn't allowed to graduate because at his particular school the classes are C walled instead of D walled. Therefore, the NC kid qualifies because he walked at graduation and Lorenzo Brown does not because he didn't walk.

Like I said...blame should not be taken away from Lorenzo because ultimately they are his grades. But if his transcript is identical to another kid from the states of North Carolina/Florida/Kentucky etc...then why should he be held back just because he went to a tougher school? I wouldn't be saying this if ONE governing body (the NCAA Clearinghouse) didn't preside over every case in the country. They are the ultimate authority that said he was denied ability to go to college on an athletic scholarship although his transcript was the same as other kids they allowed to go.

The ONLY difference separating Lorenzo from say...Derrick Favors is the fact that Favors went to a small school in Atlanta that has a reputation for being a diploma mill. This is what happens when all athletes are not held to the same standard. Lorenzo got a tough break because he goes to a school that C walls their classes...anything below a C for that particular school (Centennial HS) is a failing grade.

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 02:19 PM

Dont worry Eric Bledsoe had no problem getting qualified. Yes, I agree there are problems in the system and they are not just based on high schools either.

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 02:55 PM

Seems like a kid that went to Hargrave Military Academy would have no problem qualifying. They stress academics there. Something smells here Unicar, I'm with you...

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 08:30 PM

Seems like a kid that went to Hargrave Military Academy would have no problem qualifying. They stress academics there. Something smells here Unicar, I'm with you...


Well they are appealing it right now. I'm not upset about Lorenzo's HS or the coaching staff or anything else. They apparently thought that everything would be ok and then they get this bomb dropped on them. My beef is with the NCAA clearinghouse that has ultimate authority over ALL HS players trying to qualify. I didn't want to bring up names but Luc already alluded to one Eric Bledsoe who is on campus at Kentucky. There were SERIOUS doubts about him qualifying and honestly not many about Lorenzo qualifying and Bledsoe gets in and Lorenzo doesn't. The only difference....Bledsoe got to walk at his graduation because his HS isn't as competitive as Browns.

It is just BS that an ACC school and an SEC school are essentially holding their kids to different standards. I mean under that philosophy a kid could do the bare minimum and graduate from a bare minimum high school and another kid could do the same work as other non-athletes but more work than athletes and because his school has more than bare minimum requirements he doesn't walk. If that makes sense...its just a double standard if you ask me.

Not to mention there is the possibility that Lorenzo could be qualified by the 2nd semester...which means that if he had a questionable record, it was not much at all.

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 11:02 PM

Do I remember wrong, but didn't an athlete take a couple of online classes last year to get qualified for UNC?

If so, why couldn't Lorenzo do that?

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 01:38 PM

Do I remember wrong, but didn't an athlete take a couple of online classes last year to get qualified for UNC?

If so, why couldn't Lorenzo do that?


The issue isn't the classes per se but rather the fact that his HS didn't let him walk at graduation. The thing that ticks me off is that I have heard Lorenzo has done what would be needed of any other student in order to graduate during the summer. Kids take summer school all the time to take a class over that they might have failed. Yet...the NCAA still says no. So its not even a matter of "Lorenzo needs this class to qualify etc..." It is more the fact that his HS just flat out did not let him walk at graduation and that aspect of him being denied a diploma is what has made the NCAA come to their decision.

IDK...it is all to complicated at this point for me and normally when the situation isn't cut and dry it starts to get fishy IMO. The kid is an adequate student probably better than a lot of his Rivals/Scout top 100 classmates yet he is going to prep school and they are going to their respective colleges.

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 01:49 PM

I mean, I'm a huge wolfpack fan, but if you don't graduate then how can you go to college? The NCAA regulations require a diploma, they pay no mind to the difficulty level, standards, and misc. attributes of the school. That being said, with all the fraud, i'm sure something will be worked out ;o) Anyways, i'm not getting made yet because he hasn't stepped on the floor to play. Now, if they pulled him mid season like they tried to do Grant THEN ide be pissed.

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 03:58 AM

So one year in prep school

Several players have done that down thru the years

State just has to wait one more season .

Unless your worried one more season might convince Brown to move to a top 20 Team .

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 01:54 PM

So one year in prep school

Several players have done that down thru the years

State just has to wait one more season .

Unless your worried one more season might convince Brown to move to a top 20 Team .


If I were a State fan, I'd be very concerned about that. It happens all the time. Charlotte picked up Chris Braswell this season after he didn't qualify for Georgetown. He was a top 20 player according to some scouts at the time of his commit to Georgetown. Once you don't qualify, it reopens the floodgates and every team in the country with a need at that position comes calling.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:10 PM

If I were a State fan, I'd be very concerned about that. It happens all the time. Charlotte picked up Chris Braswell this season after he didn't qualify for Georgetown. He was a top 20 player according to some scouts at the time of his commit to Georgetown. Once you don't qualify, it reopens the floodgates and every team in the country with a need at that position comes calling.


Ryan Harrow is an ace in the hole of sorts for the pack. He is Lorenzo Browns god brother and one of his best friends. They want to play together in the same backcourt and they both love Sid Lowe and Larry Harris.