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#13 Manos

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 06:39 AM

i'm definitely not saying kemba is iverson


While Kemba isn't as good as Iverson they have an insanely similar play style imo.

The biggest thing this team is missing to help optimize Kemba is a sharpshooting sg to space the floor. We have the low post presence(Al offense and Biz defense) the stretch 4(Zeller potentially) and the slasher/defender/secondary ballhandler(im very high on mkg) we just need to ditch hendo(sixth man I'll tolerate him starting with the rest of our teams makeup not so much) and get someone who can shoot. I would love Klay Thompson but I don't see the warriors letting him go.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:09 AM

Kemba is the future here. Yes he can be the #2 option.

An upgrade to SG is obvious. An actual knock down shooter. However that cannot be the answer. Kemba and "said upgrade at SG" cannot be the majority of our scoring. We need Zeller to become Pao Gasol or Lamarcus Aldridge.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:03 AM

I think Kemba CAN be the main option, but we need to upgrade our SG and PF spots first (hopefully Zeller will become the upgrade at PF). At UConn during the championship run, Kemba was the man but he had Jeremy Lamb as a second option. Right now (with Al out), our second option is Gerald Henderson. Hendo is NOT the guy you want as your second option. When Al gets back, that could help Kemba.

 

But like Manos said, the thing that will help him the most is a really good SG, specifically someone who can stretch the floor. I'm keeping my eyes on Wayne Selden, Dante Exum, Marcus Smart (maybe he can have an Oladipo-type turnaround with his 3), James Young, and even Wiggins.



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:24 AM

Hopefully we can cash in on DET and Portland's picks this season...could potentially find a couple answers to the roster. And I just really want Jabari here. 



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:00 AM

IMHO, i feel Jabari is the best fit for us



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:27 AM

IMHO, i feel Jabari is the best fit for us

 

I'm obviously in the minority, but I feel Wiggins is over-hyped at this point. He's athletic as hell and still a great player, but Jabari has a better all-around game at this point IMO. I really feel he has the potential to be a Carmelo type guy, without some of the circus around him.



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:36 AM

I'm obviously in the minority, but I feel Wiggins is over-hyped at this point. He's athletic as hell and still a great player, but Jabari has a better all-around game at this point IMO. I really feel he has the potential to be a Carmelo type guy, without some of the circus around him.

 

i hate when people compare jabari to carmelo. he isnt a ball hog and can play team ball alot better. carmelo isnt a championship caliber player. jabari is more like paul pierce if anything



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:43 AM

i hate when people compare jabari to carmelo. he isnt a ball hog and can play team ball alot better. carmelo isnt a championship caliber player. jabari is more like paul pierce if anything

 

Comparing a player to another player's style/ceiling doesn't usually include the negatives. Figured it went without saying there's an obvious difference in Jabari and Melo for the negatives the latter brings. 



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:37 AM

Comparing a player to another player's style/ceiling doesn't usually include the negatives. Figured it went without saying there's an obvious difference in Jabari and Melo for the negatives the latter brings. 

 

which makes him more similar to paul pierce than melo. its simple just a better comparison



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:03 AM

I've always said that his best comparison is Pierce and/or Melo. He's got the intangibles of Pierce, but I feel like his combination of scoring arsenal, rebounding, strength, and post play will more so mirror Melo than Pierce. Parker will be able to play the 4 in a system similar to what the Knicks run. Either one is a great comparison though, and he really seems like the best of both players. However that maybe putting a bit too much on him, because Pierce, while never being in that elite tier of players, he was definitely an All-Star level player; Melo on the other-hand is one of the better scorers we've seen.



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:04 PM

WANT, WANT, WANT JABARI PARKER!!!!!

 

Parker is showing that he's is right there with Wiggins and have actually been outplaying Wiggins so far in their short college careers. I really thought that Parker was going to struggle a bit playing in Duke, but he's clearly overtaking that team by storm.

 

Julius Randle may actually have outplayed both these guys so far, but we're packed at the PF position already. We have to find a way to get our hands on Andrew Wiggins or JABARI PARKER.

 

I think that as of "needs", Wiggins would make more sense in that he would fill the SG position for us. But, Parker seem like he would fit our team much better. The question is what are we going to do with the lineup (Parker, MKG, Big Al, McRob, Zeller, Biyombo)? I think that Parker may be able to play SG, but I'm not sure if thats where he'll be best utilize at. MKG needs to stay at SF bc he's much better inside the paint. Big Al and Zeller will need to be starters next year, because we didnt pay a bunch of money or spend a no4 overall pick on those guys to have one of the two sitting on his ass.



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:19 PM

IF Charlotte lands Wiggins/Parker/Randle/Exum/Smart...the team then gets built around them. MKG/Zeller/Kemba be damned. 

 

Just an example, but the Blazers passed on Jordan because they had Drexler. Jordan won't make the same mistake if he thinks there's a player to be taken that is an upgrade over our current starter in that same position. Trades can be made to rectify a situation in that case. 

 

We won't be passing on Parker for instance, simply because we have MKG at the 3 and Zeller at the 4. Somebody will get traded or be coming off the bench in that case.