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#16 CarolinaNCSU

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:24 AM

Hopefully we can cash in on DET and Portland's picks this season...could potentially find a couple answers to the roster. And I just really want Jabari here. 



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:00 AM

IMHO, i feel Jabari is the best fit for us



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:27 AM

IMHO, i feel Jabari is the best fit for us

 

I'm obviously in the minority, but I feel Wiggins is over-hyped at this point. He's athletic as hell and still a great player, but Jabari has a better all-around game at this point IMO. I really feel he has the potential to be a Carmelo type guy, without some of the circus around him.



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:36 AM

I'm obviously in the minority, but I feel Wiggins is over-hyped at this point. He's athletic as hell and still a great player, but Jabari has a better all-around game at this point IMO. I really feel he has the potential to be a Carmelo type guy, without some of the circus around him.

 

i hate when people compare jabari to carmelo. he isnt a ball hog and can play team ball alot better. carmelo isnt a championship caliber player. jabari is more like paul pierce if anything



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:43 AM

i hate when people compare jabari to carmelo. he isnt a ball hog and can play team ball alot better. carmelo isnt a championship caliber player. jabari is more like paul pierce if anything

 

Comparing a player to another player's style/ceiling doesn't usually include the negatives. Figured it went without saying there's an obvious difference in Jabari and Melo for the negatives the latter brings. 



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:37 AM

Comparing a player to another player's style/ceiling doesn't usually include the negatives. Figured it went without saying there's an obvious difference in Jabari and Melo for the negatives the latter brings. 

 

which makes him more similar to paul pierce than melo. its simple just a better comparison



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:03 AM

I've always said that his best comparison is Pierce and/or Melo. He's got the intangibles of Pierce, but I feel like his combination of scoring arsenal, rebounding, strength, and post play will more so mirror Melo than Pierce. Parker will be able to play the 4 in a system similar to what the Knicks run. Either one is a great comparison though, and he really seems like the best of both players. However that maybe putting a bit too much on him, because Pierce, while never being in that elite tier of players, he was definitely an All-Star level player; Melo on the other-hand is one of the better scorers we've seen.



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:04 PM

WANT, WANT, WANT JABARI PARKER!!!!!

 

Parker is showing that he's is right there with Wiggins and have actually been outplaying Wiggins so far in their short college careers. I really thought that Parker was going to struggle a bit playing in Duke, but he's clearly overtaking that team by storm.

 

Julius Randle may actually have outplayed both these guys so far, but we're packed at the PF position already. We have to find a way to get our hands on Andrew Wiggins or JABARI PARKER.

 

I think that as of "needs", Wiggins would make more sense in that he would fill the SG position for us. But, Parker seem like he would fit our team much better. The question is what are we going to do with the lineup (Parker, MKG, Big Al, McRob, Zeller, Biyombo)? I think that Parker may be able to play SG, but I'm not sure if thats where he'll be best utilize at. MKG needs to stay at SF bc he's much better inside the paint. Big Al and Zeller will need to be starters next year, because we didnt pay a bunch of money or spend a no4 overall pick on those guys to have one of the two sitting on his ass.



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:19 PM

IF Charlotte lands Wiggins/Parker/Randle/Exum/Smart...the team then gets built around them. MKG/Zeller/Kemba be damned. 

 

Just an example, but the Blazers passed on Jordan because they had Drexler. Jordan won't make the same mistake if he thinks there's a player to be taken that is an upgrade over our current starter in that same position. Trades can be made to rectify a situation in that case. 

 

We won't be passing on Parker for instance, simply because we have MKG at the 3 and Zeller at the 4. Somebody will get traded or be coming off the bench in that case. 



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Posted 16 November 2013 - 09:23 AM

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 03:06 PM

IF Charlotte lands Wiggins/Parker/Randle/Exum/Smart...the team then gets built around them. MKG/Zeller/Kemba be damned.

Just an example, but the Blazers passed on Jordan because they had Drexler. Jordan won't make the same mistake if he thinks there's a player to be taken that is an upgrade over our current starter in that same position. Trades can be made to rectify a situation in that case.

We won't be passing on Parker for instance, simply because we have MKG at the 3 and Zeller at the 4. Somebody will get traded or be coming off the bench in that case.


Exactly. Right now, everyone other than Big Al on this team is a role player. MKG may be the only piece with value to trade but he's improving and is worth keeping.

Parker def makes a ton of sense bc he will probably be a NBA PF. But that means we'll be stacked at that position. Now I'm wondering if the Zeller pick even make sense now if we were able to land a Parker or Randle. Probably should have gone McLemore. Unless Parker can fill the SG spot, I'm confused right now how CHO/MJ are building this team.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 03:13 PM

The cats likely won't have a pick if they keep it up, if they do it's going to be in the 5-9 range so Exum, Smart would likely be targets.


Think sg or pg, maybe a center. Not likely to go Sf or Pf with Mkg, Taylor, biz and zeller.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 05:01 PM

you pick the best available and move the rest of the pieces to make him fit..

 

you don't pass on Jabari because you have Taylor and MKG.. im sure you know this, im just stating the obvious



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Posted 20 November 2013 - 11:04 PM

you pick the best available and move the rest of the pieces to make him fit..

you don't pass on Jabari because you have Taylor and MKG.. im sure you know this, im just stating the obvious

Unless they win a max of. 4-5 more games the rest of the season they won't be in position to pick wiggins, Parker or randle. I wasn't saying they would pass on Parker or wiggins, but that no one at Pf or Sf around where the cats will likely be picking aren't going to be better then zeller or mkg.

Heck if they win more then 25 or so games the cats likely won't have a first round pick. If that ends up being the case then signing Jefferson will go down as one of the biggest mistakes a NC based team has ever made.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 11:48 PM

Unless they win a max of. 4-5 more games the rest of the season they won't be in position to pick wiggins, Parker or randle. I wasn't saying they would pass on Parker or wiggins, but that no one at Pf or Sf around where the cats will likely be picking aren't going to be better then zeller or mkg.

Heck if they win more then 25 or so games the cats likely won't have a first round pick. If that ends up being the case then signing Jefferson will go down as one of the biggest mistakes a NC based team has ever made.

 

Looks like we could win 25 without Jefferson even playing.  In that case, you can't tell your young guys to "lose" when they need to develop.  




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