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#1 Big A

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:32 PM

Today's episode of Numbers Never Lie asked if Cam was responsible for win:

The numbers say NO, he actually lowered the win probability for Panthers. So basically the defense was able to win in spite of Cam! LMFAO

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:35 PM

Cam had a "bad" game (which I disagree with) and the panthers still win. Oh damn that's good smack talk alice.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:44 PM

Yea anyone with half a brain could tell that Cam didn't play well and the defense carried us.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:52 PM


Yea anyone with half a brain
could tell that Cam didn't play well and the defense carried us.


hence Alice needing a website to tell him (a website he again didn't link, btw)

#5 Big A

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:02 PM

hence Alice needing a website to tell him (a website he again didn't link, btw)



Numbers Never Lie is a show on ESPN and today's show will be available tomorrow, so there is nothing to link. Next air time is 2am my time so 3am yours.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:03 PM

Yea anyone with half a brain could tell that Cam didn't play well and the defense carried us.


I'm really not understanding how cam didn't play well. Yeah he didn't play great. He missed some big throws and had an interception but he came through when we needed him at the end. There were too many dropped passes of balls he put on the money. He won the type of game good NFL QBs win. He showed a lot of growth and maturity in this game. You really can't say he didn't play well. Especially against a really good defense with a weak oline

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:11 PM

jesus h christ alice stop making threads and flounder on back to the pequod's trywork where you belong



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:16 PM

Today's episode of Numbers Never Lie asked if Cam was responsible for win:

The numbers say NO, he actually lowered the win probability for Panthers. So basically the defense was able to win in spite of Cam! LMFAO

 

 

Um....if the defense won in spite of Cam, imagine what will happen when Cam is on, and facing a bad defense, like the Saints.........oh the destruction that will occur



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:39 PM

Who the hell implied that the panthers won because of cam.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:44 PM

Cam absolutely made the throws that counted when he needed to.

 

He was jittery early... but he's a young guy and that was the biggest game of his career.   He's going to settle down and get used to it.  He was playing arguably one of the top 3 defenses in the league to that point and easily one of the hardest he's played in his career.



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:55 PM

I ask you this Alice, if Brees were to have a bad game, could the Saints win?



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 02:29 PM

I ask you this Alice, if Brees were to have a bad game, could the Saints win?


Week 2 in the rain against Bucs when they were still playing hard and losing by a last second play,

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 02:32 PM

So, not against a tough team



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 02:33 PM

So, not against a tough team

 

hey man you can only play the teams on your schedule. unless the panthers do that, then they suck



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 02:52 PM

So, not against a tough team


Well unlike Cam, your asking for games won when Brees had a bad performance, that is like 1 or 2 games as opposed to half of Cams games. You can say he played below his average 2 games, against Bucs week 2 which still has the #3 defense and had 2 interceptions in that game off Brees, and Pats game that should have been a win if refs call the game correctly,

If you want to look at common opponents, Palmer had 7 points on first drive of game and 0 points the rest of game and two 3rd down conversions the rest of game. How did that super defense do against that same Cardinals team?

How about the Buffalo team we faced under the much better QB Thad Lewis who had never scored less than 20 points all season? Held them to 17 with 7 coming in garbage time. How did the vaunted Panthers D do against this same Buffalo team?


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