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#61 Trenches

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:56 PM

Yeah but Logan Mankins, Nate Solder and that offensively line looks healthy now and is getting better.. and two weeks to get healthy. 



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:08 AM

Yeah but Logan Mankins, Nate Solder and that offensively line looks healthy now and is getting better.. and two weeks to get healthy.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:15 AM

So San Francisco had the best offensive line and we blew it up.  Now supposedly New England has the best offensive line.  Another opportunity to blow this one up as well. If this line is so good then why have they given up 26 sacks?  The same number we have and we suck right??  They are rushing for 129 yards a game we are rushing for 128.  They are averaging 26 points a game and we are averaging 24.  Seems our offenses are similar.

 

The difference will be our defense.



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:51 AM

This is why our defense is playing so well. Our corners are VERY physical and excel in press coverage off the line. Remember, we no longer have Norman giving 80 yard cushions at the snap. If they play 3 step drops all game then White, Captain, and Florence - not to mention TD and Keek - are going to be busting their soft receivers in the mouth over and over again at the line. 
 
When those don't work they'll go shotgun and 5-7 step drops and we know what happens then - sack lunches for everyone. 
 
Of course, we won't shut down their offense entirely, though it's not out of the realm of possibility, but don't expect the Pats to put up obscene numbers. I doubt they score more than 20.


Hey, I know it could get ugly, and the Pats could put up 40+ on us. I just don't see that happening.

If things go as planned, we win TOP, and score some points doing so.

Our Defense plays its normal game, and puts consistent pressure on the Pats.

My mantra. The Pats are a good team, we are a very good team. We win. 34-17.
 
 

Brady is notoriously good against blitzes...so what pressure we can get on him has to come from our front four.


Getting consistent pressure with just 4 is ideal, but if you are going to blitz, you had better get there.
 
 

idk but our offense needs to be efficient as fug and score a couple of touchdowns. we can't realistically expect our defense to shut opponents down week in and week out.


Why not? Shut down, maybe not. How about harass and Bully them into submission? All the while letting you have a modicum of success. Just enough to give you hope, just not enough for any actual damage to be done.

But yeah, 10 points may win us a game or two, but you cannot count on winning many games either. Just glad we can now win when Cam struggles, or the O in general. That speaks volumes about the character, and teamwork, this team possesses.

But yeah 2, we have 5 receivers with 35 or more rec., we are not actually totally struggling. So there is that.
 
 

yeah, and not just that...but it puts the pats at the middle of the pack in that regard.
 
the run game is having some success, but as far as pass protection...it's just not happening all that well. brady is getting pressured and he isn't handling it well.


Smug little turd is showing his true colors lately. I truly hope we can send him home crying and blaming everyone but himself, in private, cuz, you know, gotta protect the image. Snotty azzed basstard.

Pressure early and often. Knock him down, hurry some throws, sack his azz plenty, just basically schitt on his perfect little world. Cover well, tackle well, and pressure well, three things we do well, and we can win this game.
 
 

They are 28th against the run. The game plan should be to run, run, then either play action or read option. Long drives, control the clock, limit Brady's possesions. The Aint's are 20th against the run, so it would be a similar approach to them.


We usually run more than we pass, but if we can be successful this week it would help emensely. Unless passing is just to successful to ignore, we will do our level best to run the ball this week.

Also, with the Pats any stoppage of time hurts you, so those inc. passes kill you. If we can run, and stay on schedule, we have the path to glory. And make no mistake my fiend. When we finish with the Pats, we will be considered 1 of the top teams. In the league. 7-3 with a 6 game winning streak.

Ahhh, life is good in Pantherland.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:53 AM

we will, no worry.



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 03:00 AM

We'll get pressure. We'll get lots of pressure. The more I think of this defense, the more I realize something: they know how good they are. They thrive on the fear of other teams. They are the type of defense that smiles when teams refuse to do anything too risky against them. They love to hit you in the mouth as hard as possible and encourage you to come back for more.


Now imagine that defense that I just described getting solo attention on the national stage for the entire night while going up against an AFC leader and a team that many are looking at to at least make a deep playoff run, if not the Super Bowl. They are chomping at the bit for this chance. And they're going to get it.


if I'm Brady, I'm bringing a LOT of clean underwear.



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 03:06 AM

How will Brady fare if he's knocked on his arse every play,  throughout the entire game?



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 03:36 AM

The quick three step drops is a great way to take away our pass rush.  The problem with doing that aganst our defense, is we have players who don't miss tackles and the patriots have a ton of unproven talent at WR.  Luke and TD absolutely clean everything up, which makes those three step drops turn into 2-3 yard pass gains.

 

The key will be stopping Ridley and forcing brady into 3rd and 7yards+.  If we do that, we get to him and put him on the ground.

 

This defense is made to stop an offense like New England (see New Orleans and Atlanta last year).  Negate the run game, pressure the passer, and hit the QB. 

I was about to say the same thing.   We haven't had to play anyone like this we but we are built to defeat DINK AND DUNK.



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 03:48 AM

Well we haven't played a high powered passing attack like this one yet. I expect them to use quick 3 step drops to slowdown the pressure of our front 4. With reduced pressure I can easily see Brady picking us apart, especially with Bilicheat getting 2 weeks to prepare. We might actually need our offense to win this game for us. Good thing is that their run D is pretty laughable without big ol' wilfork. Thoughts?

 

SF has a very good O-line with a bunch of 1st round picks. We had no trouble pressuring Kap.

 

NE will have to take shots down field that take time to develope. Short passes are not going to get it done. If NE wants to come out with a lot of short passes, then they're playing right into our hands. Inching your way down the field with short passes comes at a price. Instead of your big RB taking hits, your WRs get punished. By all means I hope they throw it short a lot. Our DBs are big, and our LBs hit like a ton of bricks. Dealing out violence on their WRs for short yardage gains is ideal. The recievers will start hearing footsteps at their backs, and the hits will start adding up. The ball will pop out. Only a matter of time. Not to mention the D-line can get their hands up into the throwing lanes. Fox was right when he said a lot can go wrong with a pass. Now what we can't have is short passes that yeild a lot of yards after the catch. We typically don't allow that, and that's why we have the best defense in the NFL. Even if they march down the field that way, our defense is tight as a frogs a$$hole in the redzone. Go ahead Brady. Keep throwing. Nice and short.

 

What I don't what is for them to run the ball on us. If we can stuff that with 7 in the box, then it's on.

 

If you watch what we're doing on defense, keep an eye on how much our players shift around while the QB is making his pre-snap read. This shifting makes it impossble for the opposing QB to know for certain where pressure might be coming from, or who might be dropping into coverage. In the past, our own defenders would be confused with the shifting and pre-snap call changes and make mistakes. Not anymore. Luke makes the changes, and everyone knows excatly where they need to be, and they believe the play is going to work. All defenders are on the same page now, and opposing QBs are the ones who are confused. Brady is no exception.

 

Without Wilfork we should be able to run the ball well and chew up the clock. Not good for NE. Running allows for play-action, and our QB has a cannon for an arm. Now the question is which Cam will show up. If Cam is hot, then this team puts anyone away. If he's throwing high and being wierd with throw aways that don't even come close to going out of bounds, then we're in trouble. Cam is the x-factor. We'll need way more than 10 points to beat NE.



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 04:01 AM

Arguably best O-Line in the league. Will be a challenge for sure.

Funny, i heard this last week. And Brady is about as mobile as a disabled diabetic patient.



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 04:24 AM

I trust the defense, i am more worried with our offense, imo we are not running enoug.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 07:40 AM

If Kenbrell Thompkins can torch Darelle Revis for two touchdowns, Aaron Dobson burn both Ike Taylor and Ryan Clark for a long bomb, and drop 2 long touchdowns against Antonio Cromartie on Monday Night, and Danny Amendola have a good game against Seattle's secondary in the past with Sam Bradford throwing him the ball then there is no reason to believe that they couldn't get open one on one with Captain Munnerlyn or Drayton Florence during single coverage or down the field.  Only a fool would think that, telling you now cannot single cover these guys... At the end of the day I don't care what record Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh or New York have.. Ike Taylor, Darrelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie are still one of the best at what they do and they were all beat by Patriot receivers BEFORE Tom developed Chemistry, now that he has... if 1 on 1 happens, it could get ugly.

 

The Pats have not seen a defense even close to the Panthers.

 

I will say this VERRRRRY SLOWWWW for you Chowdah Heads.....The Niners gained a total of 4 yards the ENTIRE 4th quarter last week. 

 

You will not run on us....and we will hit Brady.  That is a fact.  The question is how will YOU adjust to us.



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:40 AM

If Kenbrell Thompkins can torch Darelle Revis for two touchdowns, Aaron Dobson burn both Ike Taylor and Ryan Clark for a long bomb, and drop 2 long touchdowns against Antonio Cromartie on Monday Night, and Danny Amendola have a good game against Seattle's secondary in the past with Sam Bradford throwing him the ball then there is no reason to believe that they couldn't get open one on one with Captain Munnerlyn or Drayton Florence during single coverage or down the field.  Only a fool would think that, telling you now cannot single cover these guys... At the end of the day I don't care what record Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh or New York have.. Ike Taylor, Darrelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie are still one of the best at what they do and they were all beat by Patriot receivers BEFORE Tom developed Chemistry, now that he has... if 1 on 1 happens, it could get ugly.

     Have you not seen how many turnovers our team has forced? Years of yall trading back to accumulate 3 smart but average players instead of taking top tier talent when you have the chance is catching up to you. The Pats have had 2 weeks to prepare for their last couple of Super Bowls, did not help them then, and it won't next Monday. Brady is still a great QB and if yall get the ball back with a chance to win in the last 2 mins we will all be nervous as hell. But great pass rushes give you fits and you are about to face one as well as a secondary that is not scared of any receiver on your team. AND your defense is pedestrian at best, We will run for a 150 yds minimum on you, and you will lose. It's ok though, you are still one of the best teams in the AFC, your just running into a buzzsaw



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:44 AM

New England is overrated.  The Panthers are underrated.  I think we should win this game.

 

About the pressure:  They will have to max protect to stop our front 4.  That means we will have 6-7 in coverage blanketing Brady's 3-4 targets.

 

 



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 10:21 AM

I respect the pats but I don't fear them if the Saints Defense could get pressure on him I know our Defense can't and we don't blitz as much as they do. I think we will let our front four do the most work with trying to get to him. And I said it before in another game I don't see our Offense playing like that again the 49ers Defense is not an easy team to score points on.

 

I think the reason Brady has been off has been the ability of the secondary to jam their wrs at the line of scrimmage.If we can do the same it gives our DL time to get to him. I am concerned about Gronk even with Davis and Luke on him.




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