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Getting Defensive - New England Patriots

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If they get quick start, and we don't, it will be awfully hard to come back.

 

That team is just too well coached.

 

I'm curious to see if the Pats will defer if they win the coin toss. 90% of the time they do, but this week? BB might decide to try to try to take an early lead to reduce the crowds impact.

 

Also want if they go hurry up, and put Brady in the shotgun. they've done the former a few times this year, but they haven't been in Shotgun nearly as much as in the past.

 

Have the Pathers faced a Pats-type hurryup this season? When executed well, it can put a huge strain on even the best defenses, especially those that sub out a lot.

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Agreed. Pittsburg is not the same team, especially the same defense, as they've been in the past. Their pass rush is nothing like the old days.

 

And the 49ers were dropping 30 on their last 5. How much did that influence what they did to us?Pittsburgh is all over the board.  They gave up 40 to Chicago and 34 to Minnesota.  

Lets remember it was 24-24 with 7 minutes left in the third quarter.  Then the wheels came off.  I don't see us doing that.

 

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Pittsburgh is not the #8 defense.  Not even close.  They have one of the worst defenses in the league really. 

 

They were 24th in the league in TDs given up per drive and 27th in points given up per drive, as well as 18th in yards allowed per drive.  All while playing mostly offensively challenged teams.

 

Some of those number will be better after this past Sunday, but Pittsburgh's defense is not very good.

 

I think the two keys will be:

 

Pressure:  Brady will dice you up if you let him scan the field, or allow time for double moves.  The Panthers have done a good job getting to the QB before those things can even happen all year and even Brady can get jittery when there is pressure.  Our DTs will be more important than our DEs in the pass rush.  Brady loves to step up and deliver a strike with pressure, but when he can't step up he has a tendency to surrender the play.  He can't have room to step up.  The DTs have to get push on passing plays.

 

Keep NE out of the endzone:  The Panther's defense are 2nd in the NFL in points allowed in the redzone, 3rd in TDs not allowed up per redzone trip, and 1st in TD/FG ratio.  New England's offense however, even with the Pitt game, are 17th in points per redzone visit, 17th in TDs per redzone visit, and 26th in TD/FG ratio.

 

Point being, they can move the ball, but have had issues in the redzone.  We have proven to be stingy when teams have gotten into our redzone.  That trend needs to continue.  Brady will move the ball.  We have to limit him to FGs and not TDs.

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I'm curious to see if the Pats will defer if they win the coin toss. 90% of the time they do, but this week? BB might decide to try to try to take an early lead to reduce the crowds impact.

 

Also want if they go hurry up, and put Brady in the shotgun. they've done the former a few times this year, but they haven't been in Shotgun nearly as much as in the past.

 

Have the Pathers faced a Pats-type hurryup this season? When executed well, it can put a huge strain on even the best defenses, especially those that sub out a lot.

Read somewhere on one of the Pats boards by one of the guys who cover the Pats that they wouldn't be running the hurry up and hadn't done it much this year.  The receivers have to know the offense inside and outside to run it and with all the rookies and shuffling, it couldn't be done effectively.

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Read somewhere on one of the Pats boards by one of the guys who cover the Pats that they wouldn't be running the hurry up and hadn't done it much this year.  The receivers have to know the offense inside and outside to run it and with all the rookies and shuffling, it couldn't be done effectively.

 

For the most part, thats true. They've used it much less than last year, but the one game they did use it (Saints), it was very effective and put them on their heels the entire game.

 

Doing it on the road, against a stellar defense , with the crowd in the game, will probably reduce any chance of seeing it this week, but with Amendola, Gronk & Vereen back, anything is possible.

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Captain Munneryln and Drayton Florence's fate will lie in the hands of the Panthers front seven.  Aaron Dobson, Kenbrell Thompkins and Danny Amendola should have huge games.

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People can keep short selling our secondary all they want.  It is true that a great front 7 makes an average secondary look good.

 

But the Panther's defense is #1 in the NFL in INTs per possession.  So when the QBs are throwing, we are getting our hands on the ball.

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We had Fua, McLain, Kearse, Neblett, etc. for a few years.  QBs could easily step up into the pocket and pick our CBs apart.  Maybe our CBs weren't as bad as we thought. 

 

Munnerlyn, Florence, White, Mitchell, Mykel-that is pretty solid. 

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I would blitz Brad with the front 4 + Mitchell all day and keep the LBs in air defense.

yeah Brady wouldnt eventually pick that up and destroy it

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Captain Munneryln and Drayton Florence's fate will lie in the hands of the Panthers front seven.  Aaron Dobson, Kenbrell Thompkins and Danny Amendola should have huge games.

If huge means they each have 5 or 6 catches for 40 or 50 yards a piece then that is likely true. But in only 1 game did a receiver and runner get 100 yards and they were both against Buffalo in week 2 on the road. At home it hasn't happened.

 

Tell me why you think that all these receivers will suddenly go off and have huge games. You do know that the Steelers and the Saints defense are much worse than ours when it comes to scoring points.  You know how many touchdowns we have given up all year?  9  How many in the first half? 1

 

How many in the past 3 games? 1 when it mattered and 1 in junk time. Truth is we are getting better and it doesn't matter the opponent.   Our secondary is patched together but they are working together and getting better every day.  Watch and see.  You haven't come close to seeing a defense like ours.

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