Jump to content


Photo
* * * * * 1 votes

DRAFT SPECULATION/NEWS THREAD


  • Please log in to reply
607 replies to this topic

#101 CarolinaNCSU

CarolinaNCSU

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 12-September 11
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 5,702
  • Reputation: 2,601
  • LocationRaleigh
HUDDLER

Posted 03 December 2013 - 12:59 PM

yeah because all the elite teams like the Lakers, Spurs, Heat etc used the tanking method to build their championship teams.  There is no such thing as a sure bet with anyone that is drafted.  Tanking season after season to try and obtain the best college player is dumb.  Winning starts with a mindset, not the players.  You can win in this league with crappy players as long as you are getting the most out of those players and as long as those players have a winning mentality.  Free Agents did not want to play in charlotte because of the coaching staff.  Charlotte has one of the best staffs in the league now and which was a major contributor to why Al Jefferson signed here.  There will be other free agent signings come next year.  If charlotte wants Wiggens etc, the best way without sacrificing games would be to trade picks, and wouldnt you know it, charlotte has a stockpile of them over the next few years.

 

Um...the Spurs did. Hi, my name is Tim Duncan. The Lakers/Heat are large markets who can lure stars, not to mention trading for a drafted one with Charlotte (Hi, Kobe). Comparing Charlotte to large markets like LA, or Miami, who oh by the way, DRAFTED Wade, and can lure big FA's like LBJ/Bosh, is silly. 

 

FA don't want to come here because coaching only? Lol. That's just ridiculous and flat out impossible to prove, especially when so many other factors play in. Like, it's Charlotte, NC. Other teams have no taxes on salaries, large markets, better social factors, night life, etc. 

 

Al Jefferson signed here because we overpaid, by a lot. The Jazz didn't intend to bring him back and he had only one or two other suitors. The Bobcats overpaid and he took the money as a smart man would since no contenders were calling or offering nearly the same amount. 

 

Stockpile of picks? If we make the playoffs, we don't have our 1st rounder this year. Looks like we'll get Portland's, but it's going to be in the 20s. Detroit's is up in the air, but will be late lottery at best. You want to move up in the draft, you're going to have to package both of those, and possibly a player to move up.



#102 carpanfan96

carpanfan96

    play hard, hit harder

  • Joined: 29-November 08
  • posts: 11,998
  • Reputation: 962
  • LocationLexington, NC
SUPPORTER

Posted 03 December 2013 - 03:59 PM

Um...the Spurs did. Hi, my name is Tim Duncan. The Lakers/Heat are large markets who can lure stars, not to mention trading for a drafted one with Charlotte (Hi, Kobe). Comparing Charlotte to large markets like LA, or Miami, who oh by the way, DRAFTED Wade, and can lure big FA's like LBJ/Bosh, is silly. 

 

FA don't want to come here because coaching only? Lol. That's just ridiculous and flat out impossible to prove, especially when so many other factors play in. Like, it's Charlotte, NC. Other teams have no taxes on salaries, large markets, better social factors, night life, etc. 

 

Al Jefferson signed here because we overpaid, by a lot. The Jazz didn't intend to bring him back and he had only one or two other suitors. The Bobcats overpaid and he took the money as a smart man would since no contenders were calling or offering nearly the same amount. 

 

Stockpile of picks? If we make the playoffs, we don't have our 1st rounder this year. Looks like we'll get Portland's, but it's going to be in the 20s. Detroit's is up in the air, but will be late lottery at best. You want to move up in the draft, you're going to have to package both of those, and possibly a player to move up.

 

 

In this draft more like 2 players, both picks and a future first to move up from the 10-14 range up into the top 5. Unless the Bobcats elect to trade MKG (The only player worth a first round pick in return) then they could manage to move up with both the Portland and Detroit pick and MKG. 

 

It's not worth that much, which is why signing Big Al was a mistake on multiple levels and the Cats winning this season will be one of the worst mistakes the franchise has ever made. Yes, even over taking Morrison or Sean May. 

 

1. The cats super overpaid for him, he's worth maybe 8 million a season at most.

2. He's a volume shooter from the low post and only shoots around 50%

3. His defense is horrible

4. This wasn't the season to make a splash FA wise when next years FA class is better.

5. Big Al's signing gives the Cats 10 million to resign players and make a push in FA, which isn't enough to get a good player. 

 

Basically the Bobcats cracked under pressure from the Charlotte region and it's going to hurt the team in the long run. They need to get lucky in the draft to be a top 4-5 team in the east. Otherwise what's the point, they don't have the building blocks to make a contender outside of a 8 seeded team that gets swept each year.

 

What pieces do they have????? 

 

Kemba is expendable, Henderson is expendable, Big Al is terrible at defense and just a 50% volume low post shooter at best. I'm not ready to give up on Zeller, but it looks really bad and because of that he can't be considered a building block yet. As of right now, MKG is the only building block the team has right now. 

 

That's it, one player with considerable upside. 



#103 MichaelNewtonII

MichaelNewtonII

    NBA ANALYST

  • Joined: 19-September 13
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 4,357
  • Reputation: 1,409
  • LocationESPN Studios
HUDDLER

Posted 03 December 2013 - 11:41 PM

yeah because all the elite teams like the Lakers, Spurs, Heat etc used the tanking method to build their championship teams. There is no such thing as a sure bet with anyone that is drafted. Tanking season after season to try and obtain the best college player is dumb. Winning starts with a mindset, not the players. You can win in this league with crappy players as long as you are getting the most out of those players and as long as those players have a winning mentality. Free Agents did not want to play in charlotte because of the coaching staff. Charlotte has one of the best staffs in the league now and which was a major contributor to why Al Jefferson signed here. There will be other free agent signings come next year. If charlotte wants Wiggens etc, the best way without sacrificing games would be to trade picks, and wouldnt you know it, charlotte has a stockpile of them over the next few years.

which team has the brightest future? The teams that tanked and built through the draft OKC AND INDIANA. NUFF SAID.

Sent from my SGH-T399 using CarolinaHuddle mobile app



#104 MichaelNewtonII

MichaelNewtonII

    NBA ANALYST

  • Joined: 19-September 13
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 4,357
  • Reputation: 1,409
  • LocationESPN Studios
HUDDLER

Posted 03 December 2013 - 11:41 PM

yeah because all the elite teams like the Lakers, Spurs, Heat etc used the tanking method to build their championship teams. There is no such thing as a sure bet with anyone that is drafted. Tanking season after season to try and obtain the best college player is dumb. Winning starts with a mindset, not the players. You can win in this league with crappy players as long as you are getting the most out of those players and as long as those players have a winning mentality. Free Agents did not want to play in charlotte because of the coaching staff. Charlotte has one of the best staffs in the league now and which was a major contributor to why Al Jefferson signed here. There will be other free agent signings come next year. If charlotte wants Wiggens etc, the best way without sacrificing games would be to trade picks, and wouldnt you know it, charlotte has a stockpile of them over the next few years.

which team has the brightest future? The teams that tanked and built through the draft OKC AND INDIANA. NUFF SAID.:o

Sent from my SGH-T399 using CarolinaHuddle mobile app



#105 Third Degree

Third Degree

    Socks are for your feet, silly

  • Joined: 16-March 09
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 5,138
  • Reputation: 1,026
  • Location704
HUDDLER

Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:02 AM

This board would wet its pants in excitement if the Bobcats just used all their picks on UNC players.



#106 GamecockSmitty4

GamecockSmitty4

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 18-January 09
  • PipPipPipPip
  • posts: 861
  • Reputation: 259
HUDDLER

Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:41 AM

which team has the brightest future? The teams that tanked and built through the draft OKC AND INDIANA. NUFF SAID. :o

Sent from my SGH-T399 using CarolinaHuddle mobile app

 

I'm in favor of tanking but Indiana did not build by tanking. They built through the draft, but not by tanking. Their two best players were drafted 10th (George) and 17th (Hibbert). Lance Stephenson was drafted in the second round.

 

For the Bobcats, you could argue that our best draft pick so far in the Cho-era was picked 9th overall (Kemba).



#107 CarolinaNCSU

CarolinaNCSU

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 12-September 11
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 5,702
  • Reputation: 2,601
  • LocationRaleigh
HUDDLER

Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:13 AM

I'm in favor of tanking but Indiana did not build by tanking. They built through the draft, but not by tanking. Their two best players were drafted 10th (George) and 17th (Hibbert). Lance Stephenson was drafted in the second round.

 

For the Bobcats, you could argue that our best draft pick so far in the Cho-era was picked 9th overall (Kemba).

 

This is a very true point, but something the Bobcats have failed miserably on. George for instance, was a high potential guy out of Fresno State I think it was, but no sure thing at all. The Pacers found All-Stars at late lottery and middle 1st round spots. The Bobcats find Bismack Biyombos. Scouting and decision making either needs to improve, or they have to get lucky to prevent themselves from being idiots longer than they have been.



#108 MichaelNewtonII

MichaelNewtonII

    NBA ANALYST

  • Joined: 19-September 13
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 4,357
  • Reputation: 1,409
  • LocationESPN Studios
HUDDLER

Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:20 AM

I'm in favor of tanking but Indiana did not build by tanking. They built through the draft, but not by tanking. Their two best players were drafted 10th (George) and 17th (Hibbert). Lance Stephenson was drafted in the second round.

 

For the Bobcats, you could argue that our best draft pick so far in the Cho-era was picked 9th overall (Kemba).

yeah but lets just say building in the draft is best… and we don't have larry bird running our team who can spot talent we have mj who is the complete opposite so we need a top pick that has an obvious pick not a pick where mj has options



#109 Guest_Chico_*

Guest_Chico_*
Guests

Posted 06 December 2013 - 06:35 AM

Two of them will be in New York next year and the other will probably go to Philadelphia or Boston.

Keep dreaming.

#110 Guest_Chico_*

Guest_Chico_*
Guests

Posted 06 December 2013 - 06:36 AM

yeah but lets just say building in the draft is best… and we don't have larry bird running our team who can spot talent we have mj who is the complete opposite so we need a top pick that has an obvious pick not a pick where mj has options


Michael Jordan does not make personnel decisions for this team.


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users