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#1 bLACKpANTHER

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:31 AM

Skill players Seifert left to Fox:

Offense:

WR Steve Smith

WR Muhsin Mohammad

FB Brad Hoover

C Jeff Mitchell

OT Todd Steussie

 

Defense:

DT Kris Jenkins

DT Brentson Buckner

DE Mike Rucker

MLB Dan Morgan

S Mike Minter

 

K John Kasay

 

Pre-Analysis:

In hindsight, Seifert left a TON to Foxy. He basically built his D-line for him. All Fox did was draft Peppers to seal up the other book end with Rucker. Seifert also gave Fox a future HOFer in Smitty and a very solid #2 with Moose. I threw Brad Hoover in there because how much he meant to the running game, which we all know is what Fox was known for. Not to mention Klutch Kasay

 

Players Fox added to make a Contender:

Offense:

QB Jake Delhomme

RB Stephen Davis

WR Ricky Proel

 

Defense:

DE Julius Peppers

OLB Will Witherspoon

CB Ricky Manning Jr.

 

Post-Analysis:

Let's be perfectly honest- without the additions of Jake, Davis, Peppers and Spoon- the team doesn't even have a winning record. What Fox brought to the table was some Key players at Key positions AND a mental toughness the team never had before he arrived. Fox created a Thanksgiving Day banquet out of scraps on offense and sprinkled a little "pepper" on an inherited defense to make it all work.

 

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Skill players Fox left to Rivera:

Offense:

RB DeAngelo Williams

RB Jonathan Stewert

WR Brandon Lafell

C Ryan Kalil

OT Jordan Gross

 

Defense:

DE Greg Hardy

DE Charles Johnson

OLB Thomas Davis

MLB Jon Beason

CB Captain Munnerlyn

S Charles Godfrey

 

Analysis:

Fox left a lot too, but most of the players were liabilities the time Rivera got a hold of them. Stewert and D.Will were probably the only things of note on that offensive team in 2010. Lafell was still mighty suspect at the time. Beason and Davis were both injury prone LBs- now Davis has become a true Leader, but I think most of us wouldn't have cared if Rivera released Davis at THE time. Munnerlyn isn't and hasn't been an All-Pro corner but has been reliable. Same respects to Godfrey. The only thing truly of note Fox left Rivera on Defense was the bookends- CJ and Kraken.

 

Players Rivera brought in to make a Contender:

Offense:

QB Cam Newton

RB Mike Tolbert

TE Greg Olsen

WR Tedd Ginn

 

Defense:

DT Dwan Edwards

DT Star Lotulelei

DT Kawann Short

LB Luke Kuechly

S Mike Mitchell

 

Post-Analysis:

The Next game is the most important right now.... TBD



#2 MichaelNewtonII

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:32 AM

Nice thread. Rivera adding great pieces.



#3 Frash Brastard

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:33 AM

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:35 AM

Kuechly?



#5 bLACKpANTHER

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:35 AM

Lotulelei

 

ha! while typing it up i just gave it a shot and forgot to come back and spell check/edit that piece

 

thank you, lol



#6 PantherWake

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:37 AM

How do you forget Kuechly?!



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 12:40 PM

Ryan Kalil GOAT very underated



#8 TNPanther

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 01:00 PM

How do you forget Kuechly?!

 

This

 

WTF OP



#9 janderson20vt

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 01:05 PM

GM's have more say than coaches.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 01:09 PM

This

 

WTF OP

 

 

 


Players Rivera brought in to make a Contender:

Offense:

QB Cam Newton

RB Mike Tolbert

TE Greg Olsen

WR Tedd Ginn

 

Defense:

DT Dwan Edwards

DT Star Lotulelei

DT Kawann Short

LB Luke Kuechly

S Mike Mitchell

 

^This.. wtf TNP.. i edited it like 3 hours ago

 

you can now go back to the 100 other threads with a journalist no one has heard of picking us to beat the Pats. enjoy



#11 bLACKpANTHER

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 01:10 PM

GM's have more say than coaches.

 

obviously, but i didnt want the overlap of Hurney/Fox/Rivera to make things more complicated.

 

i guess i shudn't have even done this. im sorry



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 01:11 PM

I think the roster is more about how much better Gettleman has done in 6 months than Hurney did in a decade.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 02:06 PM

It's actually unfair to say that it was Hurney's fault either. The decision to tank in 2010 was all Jerry's doing because of the "lockout".

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 11:22 PM

^This.. wtf TNP.. i edited it like 3 hours ago

 

you can now go back to the 100 other threads with a journalist no one has heard of picking us to beat the Pats. enjoy

 

 

Just giving you a hard time bro :)

 

 

FYI I ignore most "journalists" because they know just as much as I do about football



#15 The Huddler

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 11:44 PM

I ripped this guy beyond belief..

 

  BUT RIVERA IS THE SSHIT.

 

Riverboat Ron is the coolest thing ever. that stare has become part of his "gambling face"




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