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Seal (SmittyIsOurSavior)

Much More Confident About NE Than SF

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You guys should feel less confident.. for obvious reasons..

 

TOM BRADY > Colin Kaepernick, not even close

Stevan Ridley > Frank Gore right now

Brandon Bolden and LeGarrette Blount > LaMichael James, not even close

SHANE VEREEN > ?

ROB GRONKOWKSI > Vernon Davis

Danny Amendola > Mario Manningham

AARON DOBSON'S CEILING > Anquan Boldin's current

Kenbrell Thompkins > ???

Julian Edelman > ????

 

Just too many weapons, too much versatility, variety, flavor and explosiveness... and way more talent offensively

 

Deadly offense, more deadly then Denver.. as great as your defense is, the New England Offense is EVEN GREATER.. I assure you.

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dood, no

 

Gronk is all time good. Amendola when healthy is better than now-Welker. Vereen is a freak in the flats and adds a whole dimension we haven't seen with Gronk. Dobson is physically elite and is coming around. Edelman, Ridley, have their moments. 

 

We have seen Gronk + Amendola back together for 1 game and they set a scoring record vs the Steelers. We haven't yet seen Gronk + Amendola + Vereen.

 

Gronk looks like he is already 30something years old on that field.

 

The Pats offense is incredible with talent and incredible with how they play that talent.  They tap every bit of it to put together the most dynamic unit in football.  If they can bulk up their OL and add just one WR in the offseason they'll get better.  But, that is a tall task for them because they suck at drafting and they never really pan out with their FA's.

 

C'mon man.  Get positive.  The Panthers are getting better, the Patriots are at the climax.  This game is big for ya'll.

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It is not their offensive weapons that scare me (they are mediocre)....nor even Brady's execution (he is playing just OK this seasoN) that scares me.....it is Belichik having 2 weeks to put in a scheme to counter our pass rush. I still think we can get some pressure on Brady, but I do not expect to see a beat down like we gave Kaep.

I hate the guy...but he has a knack for coming up with something that works.

We must play disciplined defense....watch out for the screens and TE....and pound the rock on offense. If we do these things (and I think we will) I believe we will win.

Gronk, Amendola and Vereen are not mediocre.

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 " Do not worry about sacking Brady, you can only do that in coverage sacks."  .......

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Two completly different monsters.

Its like the offensive and defensive powers switched.

Equally as nervous, but confident that if we play to out potential like we have, we will come out on top.

I want Cam to a have 3+ TD game

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I think we match up very well. We can get pressure with 4 guys, which is the recipe to beating Brady. Plus their D doesn't scare me. This will either be a blowout by us or a very close game that goes either way. They will not blow us out.

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You guys should feel less confident.. for obvious reasons..

TOM BRADY > Colin Kaepernick, not even close

Stevan Ridley > Frank Gore right now

Brandon Bolden and LeGarrette Blount > LaMichael James, not even close

SHANE VEREEN > ?

ROB GRONKOWKSI > Vernon Davis

Danny Amendola > Mario Manningham

AARON DOBSON'S CEILING > Anquan Boldin's current

Kenbrell Thompkins > ???

Julian Edelman > ????

Just too many weapons, too much versatility, variety, flavor and explosiveness... and way more talent offensively

Deadly offense, more deadly then Denver.. as great as your defense is, the New England Offense is EVEN GREATER.. I assure you.

... I think you might be retarded.

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i feel less confident about this game than i did about the SF game even though we match up much better against them than we did against SF.

 

that said, if we win, i think we don't lose more than one game the rest of the season.

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I would be much more, well I hate to use the word worried, but you know...about the Patriots.

 

Belicheck will have a stout gameplan and it is very easy to scheme for the Panthers.  Keep Newton from getting set, crush the pocket with 4 guys and keep cover 1 at the very least.  Make Newton throw to the hashes from outside of the pocket and limit those passes to 8 yards.  Eventually, this will break the passing game.  Carolina must have some screens, play action and over the middle routes.  That is not playing to the Carolina offense as much as it needs to be to beat the Pats.  TE up the seam should be there all day.  Williams must be sent up the middle of the OL many times - Wilfork and Mayo are gone.

 

On D the Panthers don't need to have the very best DB's.  They need a multi level approach.  Do not worry about sacking Brady, you can only do that in coverage sacks.  His presense in the pocket is something of awe, but has fallen off a lot.  With a 3 or 4 man rush you'll get in his throwing lanes and get those DL to have their arms up.  He throws a low ball - and throws it often.  Amendola doing his crossing routes over the middle will be the passes you'll deflect and the passes you'll lose the YAC on.  Batting those pretty passes back in Brady's face really pisses him off, too.  You'll see it when he starts to hang his head a lot.  If his head is down late in the game you still don't call it over.  He is king of the field and will quickly turn it around and jam it in your throat.  Brady sees things that others do not, and he will put the ball in a place to let his WR's make the catch.  I fear Keuchly may have a large work load to carry this Monday and that is worry for me.  If you attack his aggression on the run you can quickly get him swallowed in the play.  If Keuchly is lost in the wash Brady will dump it to the RB.  I could go on and on in awe of what the Pats do on offense - they throw a lot at you, get traffic all over the field and throw a dart right between your eyes when you are staring straight at it with both arms full.

 

So, what must Carolina do on defense?  Pressure Brady and keep his feet from getting settled.  Should not be a problem with this DL.  Give Keek an extra bowl of Wheatties and tell him to kill anything between the ends.  Your outside cover guys will not have to worry too much about the sweeps and wide runs but they'll be full with quick screens and dump offs.  They must be disciplined.  Your DB's must play smart football and know that at any given moment their guy already has them beat and they can't take one step off.  The FS must not let anyone get a better angle on him or deeper then he is playing.

 

I have said it all week to people I work with - Carolina should win this game when you look at it strategically.  NE is the worst "good" team out there.  And if Carolina wins this game and holds some momentum then they're going to make a strong playoff push and still might end up as a wildcard.  But, with confidence and a hot streak going come playoff time the Panthers could make it a few games in.  This game is going to determine the rest of the season, not because it is the Patriots and they are supposed to be the best and revered for being amazing - but because this is put up or shut up time.  If the Panthers win this it will ring a few notes down the pipe of the NFC.  It won't be Seattle and New Orleans as the top teams.  You'll have to include Carolina.    Green Bay, Chicago and many other NFC teams are not playing the football that Carolina is.  This is not the same team that lost to the Seahawks and Bills early on.  They'd most likely beat the Bills if they played again.  They'd not lose to the Seahawks, either.  This team is getting better and is good enough to win in spite of Newton regressing at this point.  That says a lot.

 

 

It's still Brady and he'll do magical things with refs giving him the most preferential treatment in the world.  In your world the Saint gets a lot of calls their way.  In the Patriots world, they get almost all the calls their way.

 

You lost me at the highlighted sentence there. Newton isn't regressing.

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You guys should feel less confident.. for obvious reasons..

 

TOM BRADY > Colin Kaepernick, not even close

Stevan Ridley > Frank Gore right now

Brandon Bolden and LeGarrette Blount > LaMichael James, not even close

SHANE VEREEN > ?

ROB GRONKOWKSI > Vernon Davis

Danny Amendola > Mario Manningham

AARON DOBSON'S CEILING > Anquan Boldin's current

Kenbrell Thompkins > ???

Julian Edelman > ????

 

Just too many weapons, too much versatility, variety, flavor and explosiveness... and way more talent offensively

 

Deadly offense, more deadly then Denver.. as great as your defense is, the New England Offense is EVEN GREATER.. I assure you.

 

Lets relax there bud..

 

The game isn't played on paper. Ridley isn't NEAR as good as Gore is right now, stop. Carolina has the tools, the perfect gameplan and ingredients to beat NE... Power running game and elite pass rush. If you had put Brady in Kap's shoes last week, I think Brady is sacked more than 8 times. And SF's line is leaps and bounds better than NE"s. If you add in the fact that Carolina's playing at home and feeling confident as ever, you have to feel a little uneasy. Im never going to discredit Brady or Belicheck because they're both at the top of the game in terms of all time greats, for what they do. 

 

Im assuming you're a Pats fan... and haven't watched much of the Panthers, if you don't win the possession game and if you guys can't find anyone to stop the run, go back to the game where we beat TB on MNF and be prepared to see something similar to that. Sure, on paper things look great for NE but like I said, games played on the field and in the trenches and I just don't think you're a tough enough team on either side of the ball.

 

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