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Much More Confident About NE Than SF

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Could you say that any more offensively? I mean, seriously? What is the point of sounding like such a tough goon when you're actually having a discussion? What recourse can I submit that would be valid enough? Do I up the anty and be more tough guy? Do I say meet me and main street square at midnight? It's pathetic, that it goes on here so often is stupid. If you say anything against Cam Newton you get lambasted. I guess a lot of you want his chocolate syrup down your throats, I don't know... it's annoying. Whats worse, if seeing guys like you in the world, who'd never say that to another mans face - yet, probably would because you have no decency. You, little boy, are a mockery of what a man should be. Shut up, state your opinion, let others state their. If you disagree, you disagree. Make a constructive argument about it, don't be such a dick. It's an internet message board. If you want to make it reality, we can meet for a date at Tavern or Dixie's.

People here waste too much time feeding trolls like you then they do talking football. I cannot believe it is tolerated. Anyway...

Cam has lots of neat records, and I did not say anything to take away from how good he has played. I am just saying the weaknesses in his game have a good chance of being exposed by Belicheck.

Cam doesn't have the record, history, or proven intangibles that Brady does. He is far from a first round ballot HOF QB. Cam is not Tom Brady. This game is not played between two QB's and those stats won't mean crap. I am almost certain Newton will have more yards then Brady by the end of the night, but that will not matter. It is a stat. He is having a Pro Bowl year, but that's the Pro Bowl. You can disagree all you want, but watch your mouth because it makes you look bad.

fwiw, i am not a patriot fan, clearly, i am a bills fan. so i wouldn't be on a pats board.

Why would Newton almost certainly have more yards than Brady? This isn't 2011 or 2012.....big play passing isn't what we do.

Also, we run and NE doesn't look to have the means to shut that down. On the other hand, we certainly look capable of making NE rather one dimensional.

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I have seen about 70-80% of Newtons snaps since he began in Carolina.  Living in NC means the game is on every week.

 

If I am wrong, I'm wrong.  If people disagree they disagree.  I don't profess to be an expert, and when I said my trained eye it was not at all in serious form.  I haven't spent time watching his all 22 tapes, other then Bills/Panthers.  I can only account for what I have seen in real time on Fox.  I am fine when someone disagrees.  I will usually respond once or twice and leave it at that.  I have a problem with rude behavior and chest thumping - it's the internet and everyone is a tough guy.  Ruffling feathers is not my MO, but when anyone says anything bad about Newton they become the antichrist and insulted.  It's not appropriate.

 

inb4 "herpderp, yeah, but you're sooo wrong and stupid that you need to hide in a cave and ask for forgiveness, you New Yorker with fat women and ehhh, whatevever else"

 

 

it's not so much that you're a complete buffoon so much as it is that everything you said was wrong and dumb

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Many in  this thread point to this years stats for both Cam & Brady as the be all and end all. Thats just too shallow to predict this game.

 

Do I think Cam will have a good game on par with his best this season? Actually, I do. Throw out other seasons - he has a better coach / players than in the past. He's at home. The team is on a roll.

 

Do I think you can judge Brady by this season, and this season only? Heck no! If you do, you'll be disappointed. Go by his last 2-3 games if you want a better predictor for this Monday. Averaging 35+ per game, with Ridley and Gronk at 100%? 

 

BuffaloBill had some good points and has suffered 12 years of BB & Brady. Consider his opinion regarding the Pats as an experienced fan.

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I have been lurking on this board for a week or so seeing what Panther fans are saying about the game. Registered tonight.

One thing I have seen in many threads is that Brady is off. You people do realize that Gronk, Amendola and his 3rd down back, Vereen, have been out? They are all back and have had the bye week to scheme. I realize opinions are useless, but if the Pats don't put up at least 30, I will be shocked.

I will be back after the game to discuss what happened, because IMO, before game chest beating by the fan bases of either team is useless. As a fan of NFL football first, I'm pretty confident this will be an exciting, hard fought game.

Good luck. I hope both teams escape any serious injuries and may the best team win.

At least 30? Or you will be shocked? So you less than 30 on the road against one of the toughest D's in the NFL would be a letdown? That thought process means you must think 40-50 is what this team will put up easily on the non top 3ish teams?

I think a good game against a sorry Steeler squad has messed with your perception of reality.

Gronk is big. Yes. He doesn't magically fix everything for NE.

The other guys? Yes, you are better with than without them....but they as well don't fix all your OL issues or the fact that some of Brady's issues this year aren't just b/c they haven't been in the field

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Anyway, I'd like to see those stats, not that I do not believe you - just to see how everyone stacks up in the league.  Especially Kaepernick.

 

 

They are PFF subscriber stats so I don't have a link, but Cam is 3rd.

 

 

Newton also has a 120 passer rating on 3rd down (best in the league) and a couple weeks ago the panthers had the fewest 3 and outs in the NFL (no idea now)

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How the hell can ppl say we match up better with NE?!? 

 

SF is built for the run and we are built to stop the run. 

 

SF has poo for a QB. NE has one of the best in the history. 

 

If a team is gonna beat us it is gonna be through the air and Brady is still one of the best in the business. 

 

I think we can win this game, however Cam needs to have a good game and we will need to score 24+ to get the W. 

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If a qb gets to throw the ball without pressure our DBs don't look so hot. Remember kaep and even Bradford had successful drives.

Brady is much better than those guys. If we can't get to him, he will march the field no matter how bad his wrs are. I worry more about ne than 49ers

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Could you say that any more offensively? I mean, seriously? What is the point of sounding like such a tough goon when you're actually having a discussion? What recourse can I submit that would be valid enough? Do I up the anty and be more tough guy? Do I say meet me and main street square at midnight? It's pathetic, that it goes on here so often is stupid. If you say anything against Cam Newton you get lambasted. I guess a lot of you want his chocolate syrup down your throats, I don't know... it's annoying. Whats worse, if seeing guys like you in the world, who'd never say that to another mans face - yet, probably would because you have no decency. You, little boy, are a mockery of what a man should be. Shut up, state your opinion, let others state their. If you disagree, you disagree. Make a constructive argument about it, don't be such a dick. It's an internet message board. If you want to make it reality, we can meet for a date at Tavern or Dixie's.

People here waste too much time feeding trolls like you then they do talking football. I cannot believe it is tolerated. Anyway...

Cam has lots of neat records, and I did not say anything to take away from how good he has played. I am just saying the weaknesses in his game have a good chance of being exposed by Belicheck.

Cam doesn't have the record, history, or proven intangibles that Brady does. He is far from a first round ballot HOF QB. Cam is not Tom Brady. This game is not played between two QB's and those stats won't mean crap. I am almost certain Newton will have more yards then Brady by the end of the night, but that will not matter. It is a stat. He is having a Pro Bowl year, but that's the Pro Bowl. You can disagree all you want, but watch your mouth because it makes you look bad.

fwiw, i am not a patriot fan, clearly, i am a bills fan. so i wouldn't be on a pats board.

I'm sorry, I was exaggerating my feelings in a manner similar to the way you exaggerated Cam's mental state and the various strengths and weaknesses of both teams.

Could the Pats kick our ass? Absolutely. But that wouldn't be anything unusual, just like us whipping the Patriots wouldn't be. Football is a high variance sport and when your concerns center on retarded things like thought processes and faulty stats instead of actual critical thought you will get the shaming such malfeasance deserves.

Finally, I have to wonder about the emotional state of a person who takes the obvious ramblings of some random poster so readily to heart. A little visceral trash talk never hurt anyone; in fact, I much enjoy well-written diatribes directed at me.

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At least 30? Or you will be shocked? So you less than 30 on the road against one of the toughest D's in the NFL would be a letdown? That thought process means you must think 40-50 is what this team will put up easily on the non top 3ish teams?

I think a good game against a sorry Steeler squad has messed with your perception of reality.

Gronk is big. Yes. He doesn't magically fix everything for NE.

The other guys? Yes, you are better with than without them....but they as well don't fix all your OL issues or the fact that some of Brady's issues this year aren't just b/c they haven't been in the field

 

Like I said, the pre game back and forth is useless. We'll know in about 76 hours.

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One thing that Brady does not do well is to handle effective pressure.  

 

Knock him around and down a few times and he will throw a tantrum at his own guys and the NE offence will falter.

 

I think that our D will bounce Brady out of his comfort zone into desperation throws that will be defensed or picked.

 

Best regards,

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One thing that Brady does not do well is to handle effective pressure.  

 

Knock him around and down a few times and he will throw a tantrum at his own guys and the NE offence will falter.

 

I think that our D will bounce Brady out of his comfort zone into desperation throws that will be defensed or picked.

 

Best regards,

 

No QB is consistently good under pressure. 

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Like I said, the pre game back and forth is useless. We'll know in about 76 hours.

Well...I don't consider that pregame."my team is better than yours" silly talk.....

I mean to expect the Patriots to go on the road and easily put up at least 30 or it would be shocker against one of the toughest D's in the NFL.......seems to be overboard.

Could they sure? In think Peterson set the rushing record against one of the best rush teams.....football is unpredictable. But it to suggest thinks as obvious that clearly aren't is a tad much IMO.

Personally, I think we have to continue improving to win. We are continuing and have room to do that as we haven't even been playing that good all around yet.

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