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Mike Tolbert has been the Panthers best running back this year.


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#61 tjmurray

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 06:39 PM

stewart had more carries tho, and it seems like stewart just isnt finding the holes right now .

not like it was just this game either, stewart has been back for 5 weeks and really hasnt done much


Maybe there aren't any holes to find...

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 06:48 PM

Let's not get carried away though. Tolbert has been great for us when we've needed 3-4 yards but if we rely on him we're boned. We need a committee simply because our run blocking blows. This is why we're fans. It's easy to criticize our RBs but I'm positive G-Man, Shula and Rivera are aware that our issues doesn't reside in our RB corp. Not only are we depleted up front but our plays take so long to develop. Like I said, is it a coincidence that all of our backs are struggling (other than the one that appears to be a hog molly)?

 

it'd be a lot easier to place the blame squarely on the line if stewart would at least attempt to get upfield. he looked like poo today. you're right, tolbert has been great for us when we've needed 3-4 yards; but you say that like that's some sort of problem when the alternatives are stewart, williams, and/or barner. i'll take 3-4 ypc over a bunch of tap dancing behind the line and 2.7 ypc



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Posted 01 December 2013 - 06:50 PM

btw tolbert went for 5.3 ypc, 14 yards per reception, and he left quite an impact on the poor souls that tried to tackle him



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Posted 01 December 2013 - 06:51 PM

stewart had more carries tho, and it seems like stewart just isnt finding the holes right now .

not like it was just this game either, stewart has been back for 5 weeks and really hasnt done much


Maybe there aren't any holes to find...

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 06:52 PM

Basically he looked like a slightly better version of Williams in the games Williams doesn't see space


I am on the floor laughing at this, lol....

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 06:54 PM

I think you may be missng the point of this thread. Our run game has stunk besides Tolbert. Stewart and DWill have very similar stats and results

Also what is up with everyone being idiots, retards, missing concepts and being spoiled (along with whatever other insults you are throwing out.)

Try to make your points like a grownup. It's more convincing.


That aint happening. You know better than that.

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 06:56 PM

You don't fix your run game with RBs.....you do it with your OL.

We got nothing to fix it with


Didn't you say Stewart was going to fix everything 2 months ago? Yea, that's what I thought.

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 06:59 PM

the only reason this offense looks remotely competent despite that OL is that Cam is fuging amazing at avoiding pressure and Tolbert needs at least 3 people to take him down once he gets moving.

Stew had some great blocks today in the pass protection game, or cam woulda gotten blown up several times.

I realize our running game is hurting but our RBs are not the problem IMO


They never were. They werent in the beginning of the season, they weren't in midseason and they aren't now.

#69 Fox007

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:00 PM

Stewart just doesn't have the burst he used to have. He hits the hole slow, and dances around too much. I would like to see him gone next year. D-will is still a good back. yall don't give him the credit he deserves

 

 

Did you just say Stewart dances around too much as if Dwill doesn't do that?

 

Both RBs have had to consistently deal with defenders in the back field.

 

Tolbert has easily been our best and most consistent back.



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Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:06 PM

Stewart has been done almost 2 years now, the feet and ankle problems that plagued him his entire career are catching up.

DWill is still serviceable but Stew needs gone as soon as his contract can be absorbed.

Hurney proved to himself perhaps you don't need to use 1st round picks on the RB position when he signed Tolbert.

Nahhh, who am I kidding.



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Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:15 PM

Didn't you say Stewart was going to fix everything 2 months ago? Yea, that's what I thought.

No. I am the guy who blasted DG since preseason for neglecting our OL.

Stewart does better with nothing than Williams. That doesn't mean Stewart will be good running into the OLs back.

Today would have likely been another one of those 2 yard per carry days Williams has had this year. No holes.

OL issue. OL sucking doesn't mean Stewart fights forward where Williams goes down is false.

People are entirely too sensitive about Williams ...

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:19 PM

Tolbert is a wrecking ball...but dont forget that screen to olsen in the NFC championship game....



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Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:19 PM

Did you just say Stewart dances around too much as if Dwill doesn't do that?

 

Both RBs have had to consistently deal with defenders in the back field.

 

Tolbert has easily been our best and most consistent back.

Atleast Williams gets to where he needs to be more often times than Stewart. 



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Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:27 PM

Atleast Williams gets to where he needs to be more often times than Stewart.

Statsically, I would wager Williams goes down for no gain or 1 yard more often than Stewart

28 is better after contact....Williams' rare nice runs aid his ypc

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:28 PM

Atleast Williams gets to where he needs to be more often times than Stewart. 

 

Maybe to the outside but certainly not inside.

 

They shouldn't be using him that way anyway.

 

Use Williams for outside or stretch plays and use Tugboat....for everything :)




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