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CBS Sports: "Cam Newton or Russell Wilson?" [Video]

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Boomer is acting like an old cry baby.  I dont like it when guys celebrate so I think they think its all about them.  I want the NFL to be like it was 30 years ago when people did not celebrate so much.  Forgeting about the fun bunch,  the smurfs,  and group celebrations like that which you can't do now.  

The bottom line to me is I see Russell Wilson as a finished product.  An excellent quaterback but I think he is hitting his head on his celiling right now.  I don't think he will ever be much better than he is right now.  Very good but what you see now is the best you are going to ever get from him.

Cam, if he can read defense a little quicker and fix his mechanics, I dont know that there is a celiling for him.  Think Vick that could complete 65% of his throws and did not get hurt.  I don't know that he will get there but he could.   

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Fug Boomer. I'm glad he went off like that. In the past, he was always giving half-assed, backhand compliments to Cam and The Panthers. Remember his rookie year? Marino and Sharpe called Cam a once-in-a-generational talent. They were praising Cam's willingness to stay in the pocket and read defenses instead of scrambling on every other down. Boomer, of course, called them 'crazy'. He said there was nothing special about Cam, proceeded to question his intelligence and compared him to pre-prison Vick. Sharpe gave Boomer the same look he did in that video above and Marino disagreed severely.

 

Links?

 

Boomer is entitled to his opinion, but he gets so "exercised" about it. And he never really answers James Brown's question about why he's so worked up? I'd like to know the true answer; I think it would have something to do with a little bitterness.

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On the topic of Russell Wilson, I'd take him in a heartbeat over RG3, Luck, Kaepernick, Tannehill, Dalton, Ponder, etc. He (along with Cam) rank right up there in the best young QBs discussion. I love that kid. I'm glad he got a starting gig instead of being our back up to be honest.

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Shocked to see RW with more rushing yards.

Trying to see it through uninterested observer eyes and right now it is a tough question. But a good problem to have.

Interesting that Cam is back in the equation(s) again..... as recently as 2-3 weeks ago it would have been RW vs. RGme or Luck with no mention of Cam at all.

As of right now Cam has about 40 more rushing yards and 5 more rushing tds. Russell still has to play tonight tho. The only beef I have with Cam these days and what's keeping him from being Elite is that one or two times a game he makes some dumb ass decisions. He's so much better than that.

I actually think he would have more td passes and yards if our defense wasn't shutting teams out. A lot of games this year have been over well before the 4th quarter, to the point where we aren't even throwing the ball anymore.

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Russell Wilson is a stud, I'm not even gonna lie... he's going to be one of the best in the league for a long time... but you can't deny he's got a lot more help on the offensive side of the ball.  Not only that but also have a defense that isn't far behind ours (and in some people's opinions, better than ours).

 

Every Seahawks game I watch for every good Wilson play be it a scramble or what, there's consistent great runs by Lynch and amazing circus catches by his receivers and they get the YAC to go along with it.  Can't say the same for Cam's offensive help... aside from Olsen he has to put the ball right on the numbers every damn time to make a completion, very little margin of error.  I'm guessing that's what Marino, Sharpe, and Cowher are looking at as well.

Bingo/Tilt/Explosion....................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Oops, there it is!!!!!!!!!!

 

Everybody's always quick to blame Cam when he throws an INT or misses a receiver, but many other wide receivers make those catches (like Lafell's finger tip miss that led to Cam's first INT). That wasn't an impossible catch. I see other receivers make that catch regularly. S. Smith also Fell down on that near INT with Revis. And Rivera indicated there was a "mis-communication" with the receiver on Cam's 2nd INT over the middle. But where always quick to blame Cam with out thinking. 

 

Cam is actually more accurate, than we give him credit for, cause he has to be so precise (as you stated) with those receivers (just think of the easy drops, mind you the tough ones), while he's alway throwing under pressure (or thinks he is), because of the suck ass offensive line that Cam bails out all the time, due to his strength, moxy, determination to stand tall in the pocket and elusiveness. 

 

Lastly, Cam never had the luxury of riding a running game the way Wilson has, and just started to benefit from a good defense and consistently good coaching, as Wilson's had from his first season. 

 

I love Wilson (and think he's better than the others, with maybe the exception of Luck in the long run), but I would go with Cam as well. Wilson's a very good young QB. Cam Newton is a weapon (or "Weapons grade")!

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Boomer is entitled to his opinion, but he gets so "exercised" about it. And he never really answers James Brown's question about why he's so worked up? I'd like to know the true answer; I think it would have something to do with a little bitterness.

No link. I pray some Panther fan somewhere recorded it though. Quite frankly, I'm shocked that clip didn't make Cam's highlights.

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Shocked to see RW with more rushing yards.

 

Trying to see it through uninterested observer eyes and right now it is a tough question.  But a good problem to have.

 

Interesting that Cam is back in the equation(s) again..... as recently as 2-3 weeks ago it would have been RW vs. RGme or Luck with no mention of Cam at all.

Not me. 

 

Wilson is more of a scrambler, and Cam is more of your traditional pocket QB. 

 

Wilson actually throws better off the run. If you keep him in the pocket, he can't see over the defense, unless he has room to create lanes like Drew Brees. He also appears to get a little antsy, and wanna run if his receivers are locked (though not as bad as RG3 or Kaep). 

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http://www.cbssports.com/video/player/nfl/77717571543/0/cam-newton-or-russell-wilson

 

Bill Cowher, Dan Marino, Shannon Sharpe, Boomer, and Brown talk about who they'd rather have.

 

Seahawks fans gonna have their jimmies Russell'd about this one.  Pretty much everybody takes Cam except Boomer (who spews straight crap).

Wow Boomer sounds just like many of those dumb @ss Saints fans.  He is a hater, bringing up crap from last year and ignoring the growth of Cam this year.  He can't do the same things as Cam.  I want to see him break tackles to keep drives going.  He cant.  He RW is a very good QB, but I will take Cam all day and every day over him.  Heck, I would bet the vast majority of GM's would too, if there was a re-draft.

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As of right now Cam has about 40 more rushing yards and 5 more rushing tds. Russell still has to play tonight tho. The only beef I have with Cam these days and what's keeping him from being Elite is that one or two times a game he makes some dumb ass decisions. He's so much better than that.

I actually think he would have more td passes and yards if our defense wasn't shutting teams out. A lot of games this year have been over well before the 4th quarter, to the point where we aren't even throwing the ball anymore.

 

remember when we were having discussions about the draft and us not taking a WR in the first two rounds.

 

i said getting a solid defense would help Cam just as much as drafting a WR in the 1st or 2nd.  I was right.

 

I think Cam is elite already. And every elite player makes dumb decisions. It happens. It's about how they respond to that and how they get their team in the position to get the W.

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You could argue that RW is just as good as Cam. I have no problem with somebody saying they would rather have RW. No need in getting our panties in a bunch.

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As of right now Cam has about 40 more rushing yards and 5 more rushing tds. Russell still has to play tonight tho. The only beef I have with Cam these days and what's keeping him from being Elite is that one or two times a game he makes some dumb ass decisions. He's so much better than that.

I actually think he would have more td passes and yards if our defense wasn't shutting teams out. A lot of games this year have been over well before the 4th quarter, to the point where we aren't even throwing the ball anymore.

Last nights two INT's weren't "dumb decisions (if you were including them)". Cam sailed one high, that Lafell couldn't get to, though OTHER Receivers may have. And there seemed to be a miscommunication (as Rivera mentioned) on his second INT. Steve Smith also fell on the route, on the near INT with Revis. Sometimes you just gotta take things as part of the game. 

 

I do agree with you, that if the offensive line was better, and the Panthers weren't in so many easy games, Cam would have more yards and TD's indeed. Of course many National Media, fail to mention these things when "accessing" Cam's yardage total and TD's. 

 

The amazing thing to think: How many games would Cam/The Panthers/Rivera had won, if Rivera would have been a better game manager, and more aggressive from day one? The Panthers have been in most of their games, since both arrived in Charlotte, but always found away to blow it at the end. 

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You could argue that RW is just as good as Cam. I have no problem with somebody saying they would rather have RW. No need in getting our panties in a bunch.

 

they are two different kinds of qb's even tho people see throwing qb that can run.

 

Cam is just on another level athletically. nobody in the league at the qb position can do the superman dive. no qb in theleague can juke three defenders in the pocket the way Cam did against ATL and make a 20 yard pass on a rocket shot.

 

RW is very good. Cam is special.

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