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rivera: "This was a very humbling experience ... Maybe we got a little full of ourselves."


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#16 Panthers4real

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 04:12 PM

Any chance Chandler gets another look at RT when Scott is back in game shape?

 

Took the words out of my mouth.  I'm tired of watching Bell get beat every down!



#17 IamSoClutch

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 04:14 PM

Won't matter much as long as Byron Bell is starting at RT.

 

True. but its better to have him than not



#18 CatMan72

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 04:18 PM

You mean full of ourselves like rushing Brees with 4 and daring him to beat us with his arm on his field in his dome? 

 

I'm glad Rivera said "WE" because the coaching staff may have needed a reality check as much as the players. 



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 04:37 PM

Your wrong Ron that crowd will be dead come Sunday. It ain't all that pretty after wins it will be less than after you guys gave up out there. I'll be in my seat but you can bet the bandwagoners will stay home.

#20 raleigh-panther

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 04:45 PM

Its very hard for me to believe, that a team that has been losers since 2008, in anyway, could be 'full of themselves'.



#21 KaseKlosed

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 04:49 PM

Byron Bell was not focused this game I believe the moment consumed him.  Cam did what coaches told him to do, and was off on a few throws.  The defense played too soft in the safety area...like they played not to get beat deep, but Drew was making 3-5 step quick drops and just throwing it into a window.  We changed how we played them from last year and the saints took advantage.  When last year our safeties made some plays on the ball and even an INT or two...this year we played too far off because Drew was dinking and dunking not going for the long bomb every play. Ron learns fast and he knows what must be changed he is no fool he knows what needs to be adjusted....rather get that loss out of the way before playoff time comes...so the players know every game wont be easy. #keepPounding 



#22 firstdayfan

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 05:48 PM

On the flip side of this I hope this was a humbling experience for some fans too.  So many people around here have been acting like we are the best team in the NFL and if all the experts don't pick us we are being disrespected.

 

I hate Darin Gnant but he said it best a couple of weeks ago, this team has such a thin margin of error.  We can't go out there and play like New England and just win it in the last 30 secs.  We have to play sound, physical mistake free football.

 

Our secondary is average, the right side of the line is below average, and the receiving core is average.  In a few years we can fix those issues which is part of the plan but for right now we have to find a way to mask our weaknesses.  Right now its through running the ball, short high percentage passes, time consuming drives, and getting after the quarterback.  We didn't do any of that last night.

 

Hopefully our fan base gets some perspective and begins to understand that we have a great team here in charlotte, ONE THAT WE SHOULD CHEER ON AT ALL TIMES, but they aren't perfect and maybe we shouldn't act that way, or expect it.



#23 Growl

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 05:53 PM

You mean full of ourselves like rushing Brees with 4 and daring him to beat us with his arm on his field in his dome? 

 

I'm glad Rivera said "WE" because the coaching staff may have needed a reality check as much as the players. 

 

i think it was more about not overcompensating for a strength by drawing resources from a weakness to blitz.

 

new orleans ate us with the short and middle of the field passes. would've been even worse if we had blitzed. secondary simply has to step up and play better than they did. playing on grass won't hurt either.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 05:58 PM

i think it was more about not overcompensating for a strength by drawing resources from a weakness to blitz.

 

new orleans ate us with the short and middle of the field passes. would've been even worse if we had blitzed. secondary simply has to step up and play better than they did. playing on grass won't hurt either.

 

They hurt us because Brees had too much time and a clean pocket. When we started sending blitzes in the 3rd quarter things changed dramatically, but it was too late. 



#25 OneBadCat

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 05:58 PM

As much as I think Rivera has improved I can't stand the fact that we have to watch him "grow" as a coach. I would think he would have the sense now to take the gutsy call when need be. Who cares if it's the Saints, we don't need to respect them.



#26 Snake

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:01 PM

They hurt us because Brees had too much time and a clean pocket. When we started sending blitzes in the 3rd quarter things changed dramatically, but it was too late.


Yea they thought they were going to beat Brees like they beat Brady. They were wrong.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:04 PM

No more conservative BS. They played not to lose. I'm tired of our coaches having to learn this lesson, over, and over, and over.


The last time Brandon Lafell dropped an equally important pass we lost. If he drops on 1st down, cool. But these 3rd and 4th down drops need to stop.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:04 PM

They hurt us because Brees had too much time and a clean pocket. When we started sending blitzes in the 3rd quarter things changed dramatically, but it was too late. 

 

most of what new orleans ran didn't need a lot of time, at least not in 2nd quarter when they rattled off 21. they slowed it down after the half and the pass rush got there-brees just moves in the pocket as well as anyone who plays the game-that comes to corners staying on their man for the duration of the play and they didn't do that last night. drew had to evade tacklers pretty consistently after the half and still made plays on the move to wide open guys.



#29 KillerKat

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:08 PM

No more conservative BS. They played not to lose. I'm tired of our coaches having to learn this lesson, over, and over, and over.

 

I agree. Should've went for the TD on that 2nd FG try. Also should've went for it on 4th down on the long FG we missed. Momentum could've easily swung our way in each situation. I thought Rivera learned that being conservative doesn't win you a lot of games in the NFL today.



#30 Marguide

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:09 PM

Our success on D stems largely from our front 4's ability to get pressure without needing to blitz. They didn't get it done last night. Had we started the game with a wide array of blitzes, Brees would have compensated and beat us in other spots. With our secondary the way it is, we have to count on pressure with 4. Not with 5 or 6.

 

As to the 4th down calls, given the circumstances, how far we had to go, and the way the Saints D were playing us, I cannot find fault with Ron's decision making. 

 

We just got beat on the line of scrimmage. Simple and plain.




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