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#31 Kurb

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:46 PM

This one time e board discussed Gabbert over Newton.

#32 beastson

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:48 PM

Here's another little factoid for you courtesy of Chris Wesseling of NFL.com:

Cam Newton has absorbed more hits than any QB in the league this year. Yes, even more than RGIII. So maybe there is a reason his mechanics and decision making aren't always perfect. It's tough performing at your best when you're constantly being bruised and battered.

 

Idk about that 

 

 

According to the stats on nfl.com, our offensive line is 26th in the league in QB hits. The redskins are 6th



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:58 PM

Idk about that


According to the stats on nfl.com, our offensive line is 26th in the league in QB hits. The redskins are 6th


So... NFL.com contradicts itself? Doubt it. I seem to remember our O-Line ranked 19th overall in hits last year and Cam somehow finished second to RG3 in hits.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 10:00 PM

This one time e board discussed Gabbert over Newton.


Dark days indeed.

#35 intangiblejohnny

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 10:00 PM

I think it's pretty obvious that Cam and Tolbert are the primary reasons why we have ANY success on offense.

Both are crucial to keeping drives alive on 3rd and 4th down. (Had to give Tolbert his due.)

As to Cam and Luck...I think there is little to compare besides age and this year's record. Cam's ceiling is ridiculously higher.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 10:16 PM

So... NFL.com contradicts itself? Doubt it. I seem to remember our O-Line ranked 19th overall in hits last year and Cam somehow finished second to RG3 in hits.

 

Eh Im going off the stats, not a writer. If it helps to choose what to believe, we're 26th. The Broncos is 32nd

 

 

 

But when you really think about it... how many times has Cam really been hit this year out of all the games? Not just the bad games like the 3-4 defenses, but ALL of them. Hasn't been that much

 

Here's the link

 

http://www.nfl.com/s...qualified=false



#37 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 10:16 PM

So Smith, Greg O, and Kalil have nothing to do with our success? 

 

On any successful play, most if not all players on offense contribute. 



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 10:27 PM

Eh Im going off the stats, not a writer. If it helps to choose what to believe, we're 26th. The Broncos is 32nd



But when you really think about it... how many times has Cam really been hit this year out of all the games? Not just the bad games like the 3-4 defenses, but ALL of them. Hasn't been that much

Here's the link

http://www.nfl.com/s...qualified=false


So you're telling me a writer for NFL.com neglected his employer's site on stats and fabricated his own? Like I said, I doubt it. Cam finished last season with 193 hits (second in the NFL). Only RG3 finished with more -- 206 hits.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 10:34 PM

So you're telling me a writer for NFL.com neglected his employer's site on stats and fabricated his own? Like I said, I doubt it. Cam finished last season with 193 hits (second in the NFL). Only RG3 finished with more -- 206 hits.

 

Im not telling you anything. Im showing you the numbers. I guess we're not 4th in defensive sacks either cause the statistics said so and Bronocs don't lead the league in fewest QB hits and sacks, ok



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 10:39 PM

There is no doubt that Cam needs a good WR as a weapon but the team also needs  a good CB and OL help. I just hope we can address all these needs in the 2014 NFL Draft and free agency considering  our limited salary cap.



#41 MrBubba

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 10:44 PM

People always wants to push these young QBs into the Brees and Brady categories when they are not ready. They forget that Brees and Brady needed much time to fully develop before they became who they are now as players.

It creates unrealistic expectations that most young QBs will never live up to early in their careers. That is why smart people always preach patience, something sorely missing in this instant gratification society these days.


Brees sucked enough the first couple years. Chargers drafted Rivers

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 10:46 PM

One of the most efficient offenses in the league.

Is it perfect? Nope.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 10:48 PM

Im not telling you anything. Im showing you the numbers. I guess we're not 4th in defensive sacks either cause the statistics said so and Bronocs don't lead the league in fewest QB hits and sacks, ok


Considering Cam is the leading rusher our of offense (like last year)... yeah, there's no way those numbers are skewed, right?

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 10:50 PM

Idk about that 

 

 

According to the stats on nfl.com, our offensive line is 26th in the league in QB hits. The redskins are 6th

 

There is a very simple explanation for the difference. Not all QB hits, especially those of running QB's, are attributed to the offensive line.

 

The stat you are quoting is almost certainly correct, it just is a more restrictive definition than what is being used by the writer I cited. The fact remains Cam is taking a beating every week. That will wear on anybody.



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 11:04 PM

Considering Cam is the leading rusher our of offense (like last year)... yeah, there's no way those numbers are skewed, right?

 

Oh ok then I'm corrected, he's talking about total hits he's taken overall




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