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J-Stew is not going anywhere..

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Tolbert is signed here through 2015.

 

I'm referring to a holdout.  Just a thought. 

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anyone that thinks we keep stew and unload dwill is a downright idiot..

 

why? cutting stew would destroy our cap and we're doing fine without his production anyway... worst case he doesn't play and we're fine, best case he plays and we're even better. deangelo peaked a long time ago and iirc we can cut him with no cap hit next offseason and free up a roster spot.

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Barner is muff cabbage. I think delo goes we prob draft another back.

 

I´d like to see a few games with Barner now. Since our backs are not that much involved I would be fine with Barner/Tolbert and a healthy Stew next year. No need for 4 RBs + Cam on the roster IMO.

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so dumb.

 

i hate that i ever thought it was anything close to a good idea to secure both of those guys.

i hate even more that we did it.

 

so very dumb.

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I'm referring to a holdout.  Just a thought. 

 

I don´t see Tolbert holding out. He wanted to play for us, accepted a hometown discount. I think he is a proud Panther, not one of those douchbags that don´t want their contracts any more which they once signed.

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this will drag us down for years

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Waiting for the "Williams is still a top back" crowd...

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I have been trying to tell people this for awhile. The problem isn't acceleration of the original bonus, it's the amount of guaranteed money in the contract, and very little of that has been paid yet.

His contract is much worse than DWill's due to heavy backloading.

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is the 18 mil a post june 1 cut number?


Nope, outright. Post June 1 would save us $1.5m in 2014 (but even with an early designation, we don't get that space until after June 1) but then we'd take a hit of $12.7m in 2015, a net loss of about $4.2m in 2015 (his cap hit that year is $8.5m). Not worth it IMO.

For comparison's sake, cutting DeAngelo outright would cause dead money of $9.6m over a cap hit of $6m (loss of $3.6m). But as a June 1 cut, it'd save us $1.85m in June and only cause a $267k cap loss in 2015. Oddly enough, cutting DeAngelo June 1 the following season has about the same net effect on the cap.

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LOL @ anyone who thinks they can evaluate Barner yet

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why? cutting stew would destroy our cap and we're doing fine without his production anyway... worst case he doesn't play and we're fine, best case he plays and we're even better. deangelo peaked a long time ago and iirc we can cut him with no cap hit next offseason and free up a roster spot.

 

Im just saying, anyone that thinks Stew can stay and produce is saying they're fine with injury prone under producers. Deangelo has been a career 4.5+ ypc and this year isnt that far off of that.

 

I get the cap side of things but ultimately you're going to keep the producing players.

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LOL @ anyone who thinks they can evaluate Barner yet

 

I can say for sure he needs to put on some lbs.

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