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#31 Servant of Cthululelei

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 12:46 PM

God I have never seen a fanbase get their panties in a bigger bunch about RB contracts than this one.  Let the damn coaches and personnel executives do their jobs and decide who stays and who goes.  Are they being overpaid for their production right now?  Absolutely.  But there are overpaid players on every damn team in the League.  Get over it.

 

Both Jonathan Stewart and DeAngelo Williams have been great Panthers, and no one knows what kind of Panthers (or not) that they'll be going forward. So everyone who's going around calling other people idiots for thinking this, that, or the other will happen regarding our RBs, just STOP.  You don't know what's going to happen anymore than the rest of us do.

 

I, for one, am just going to pull for whoever is wearing the Panthers jersey come Sunday.



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 12:47 PM

Hes saying Dwill is due 18 million next year, im saying restructure. whats your question?

 

i thought he was talking about stewart.

 

dwill restructured already. and im like 99% sure hes not due 18 million next year unless i completely missed something



#33 Promethean Forerunner

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 12:48 PM

I've been saying this for... what? 5-6 months? J-Stew is a Panther for at least another two years.

 

If anyone is gone, it's D-Will. It's damn obvious by now.



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 12:49 PM

i thought he was talking about stewart.

 

dwill restructured already. and im like 99% sure hes not due 18 million next year unless i completely missed something

 

yea i must have missed something as well.



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 12:51 PM

Regardless, I remain confident that Stewart is the superior back between the two. That hit he took on Sunday was unfortunate but that would have injured Tolbert and Williams too.



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 12:56 PM

God I have never seen a fanbase get their panties in a bigger bunch about RB contracts than this one.  Let the damn coaches and personnel executives do their jobs and decide who stays and who goes.  Are they being overpaid for their production right now?  Absolutely.  But there are overpaid players on every damn team in the League.  Get over it.

 

Both Jonathan Stewart and DeAngelo Williams have been great Panthers, and no one knows what kind of Panthers (or not) that they'll be going forward. So everyone who's going around calling other people idiots for thinking this, that, or the other will happen regarding our RBs, just STOP.  You don't know what's going to happen anymore than the rest of us do.

 

I, for one, am just going to pull for whoever is wearing the Panthers jersey come Sunday.

 

Let it go.....this is just the flavor of the day.

 

Same group of posters have to find something to bitch, moan, and compain about every day.  It is the only thing that gets them up in the morning and keeps them from slitting their wrists during the day.

 

We have been bitching about these contracts for two years now.

 

You would think one of them woke up this morning and had an epihany that we have two bad contracts in our RB position.



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 01:00 PM

Stewart isn't due $18m, that's just the cap hit if we cut him outright. Compare that to $5.5m to keep him on the roster.

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 01:07 PM

Let it go.....this is just the flavor of the day.

 

Same group of posters have to find shoemthign to bitch, moan, and compain about every day.  It is the only thing that gets them up in the morning and keeps them from slitting their wrists during the day.

 

We have been bitching about these contracts for two years now.

 

You would think one of them woke up this morning and had an epihany that we have two bad contracts in our RB position.

 

a little extreme no?

 

the back and forth comes from which rb to keep not that "omg we have two bad rb contracts!" as well as if dlo's numbers are a mirage.
 



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 01:12 PM

Hes saying Dwill is due 18 million next year, im saying restructure. whats your question?

 

for 2014:

stewart- CAP HIT: $5,496,250 DEAD MONEY: $18,185,000

williams- CAP HIT: $6,000,000 DEAD MONEY: $9,600,000

 

from the barnwell article:

 

Even worse, while Carolina might want to get rid of the two, it doesn't make economic sense to do so. Williams would make $6 million to play for the team next year, but Carolina would eat a $9.6 million dead money charge to cut him. Stewart, meanwhile, will make $5.5 million to play for Carolina or cost a staggering $18 million on their cap if they were to get rid of him. When Stewart's cap hit rises to $8.5 million in 2014, his dead money figure only falls to $12.7 million. The Panthers, on Stewart's current deal, can't even think about cutting him until 2016. These deals are enormous mistakes, and their full impact on Carolina's cap is yet to be realized.

 

stewart's contract is designed so that it makes it almost impossible for us to depart from him regardless of how few games he plays or how ineffective he is in them.

 

that was the hurney brand of loyalty to players that can do serious harm to the overall team.

 

i really don't know how we can get out of it. gettleman might (or some contract genius in here), but from where i sit, we are screwed with both those guys. we need to move on, but we can't.



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 01:17 PM

Hm... Barnwell has apparently never heard of a June 1 cut.

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 01:24 PM

Deangelo will be back. You guys would cut half our roster if they let you.



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 01:27 PM

The only way we get relief is from a restructure where these guys decide to give away money. That doesn't happen often.



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 01:30 PM

Well, it's too late to get the money back, not unless Stewart gives out of the goodness of his heart, so need to complain.  

 

I still have hope in Stewart. He is still a talented back. This last injury was just purely bad luck. I am hoping that he gets "healthy" much like Frank Gore has done for the last three years. At least we'd be getting production, just not a bargain.



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 01:33 PM

Since signing a 6-yr extension worth 30+ million before 2012 season, #Panthers RB Jonathan Stewart has totaled 342 yds & 2 TDs in 15 games.


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Posted 12 December 2013 - 01:38 PM

These contracts seemed awesome at the time..


But poo dude they suck. No question it is holding back the team. Its not like they are out there balling


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