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What about the old veteran WRs we did pass on, huh?


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#1 top dawg

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:43 AM

Since some want to keep starting threads to commiserate about the young bucks (that we could have had very cheaply, and relatively cheaply, even if it was a first or second round pick, Josh Gordon) that we did pass on, what about the old vets who commanded more dollars (not that we could have realistically afforded any of them, but this is for entertainment purposes).

 

Now, of course, as has been suggested (in most cases wrongly, in my opinion), who knows how these guys would have worked in our small, err ball control offense,  maybe they would be doing better with the likes of Smitty on the field? Perhaps Shula would have thought a little bigger and opened up the offense. One guy that wouldn't have been any help whatsoever is Percy Harvin. Man, that would have been a nightmare. Millions of more dollars watching from the sidelines. We'd have probably missed out on Hixon (cough), and Ginn, because why would we have needed them? And what about the more expensive version of  the Disappearing Man in Greg Jennings? How's that working out for The Vikings? 570 yards and three TDs. Yes, there are still 3 games left, but I believe that LaFell could have put up better numbers than that with Clausen if he had started that whole year.  One guy that has been making a little noise, too little, is Mike Wallace. But, even Wallace has disappointed, being out-balled by Brian Hartline. Who is the number one in Miami? Even Anquan Boldin has visibly slowed down, much like our very own Smitty this year.

 

Suffice it to say that I am glad that our GM didn't go in any of those directions. So, just like you may commiserate over passing up on the potential young studs and balling beasts, you can take comfort in the fact that we didn't bankrupt our future by dealing in fool's gold.  Let this also be a lesson and cautionary tale for the future.  A guy like Hakeem Nicks may not be worth the risk, especially when you have so many young WRs just waiting to become the new, and possibly improved, versions of the old.  The draft looks deep at WR, people. Oh, the possibilities.

 

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#2 PantherWake

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:44 AM

Lol Huddle has gone to a new level of crazy



#3 Jakob

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:45 AM

I'm going to fuging kill one of you if I see another thread about WR's today.



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:46 AM

I wanted Keenan Allen so bad, I was told *I was being a homer to my home town* I knew he would be this good. But, you don't see me making this thread.

 

I wanted to trade for Josh Gordon but holy poo I'm not making threads about it

 

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:51 AM

I wanted Keenan Allen so bad, I was told *I was being a homer to my home town* I knew he would be this good. But, you don't see me making this thread.

 

I wanted to trade for Josh Gordon but holy poo I'm not making threads about it

 

fug

 

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 fug every fuging

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You obviously didn't read. Obviously. This is NOT about the past, but the future. And, like it or not, especially in light of the Keenan Allen and Josh Gordon threads, needs to be addressed right now. 



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:53 AM

right meow



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 10:16 AM

You obviously didn't read. Obviously. This is NOT about the past, but the future. And, like it or not, especially in light of the Keenan Allen and Josh Gordon threads, needs to be addressed right now. 

My first post was serious but, my second one you quotes was me mocking half the forum whenever a thread like this is made.



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 10:23 AM

Everybody wants to discuss the past, and lost opportunities, but hardly anyone wants to discuss the up and coming talent of the future. Visit the links, make a pick, and do some research. It's better than crying over spilled milk, or getting in pissing matches about Allen vs. Short, and discussing internet syntax and grammar.



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 10:24 AM

We got what we got and also have what we have.Doesn't much matter because we have to rebuild a lot of the offense and some old son of a bitch WR wouldn't have helped us all that much. Our suck fest offensive line and lack of consistent running game is a big part of the problem.Look for wide reciever ugrades next year in the draft. Can't pull monies out our ass we don't have and overpay someone for one seasons rental.Odds are that no one will beat The Seahawks at home, so who cares.If we can make the playoffs and show well,then 2013 will be a success

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 10:29 AM

I think it's funny that people think WR is the problem.

 

If Cam had more time to throw it wouldn't matter.

 

Games are won and lost at the line of scrimmage. RG - RT will do wonders for the offense.



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 10:33 AM

We got what we got and also have what we have.Doesn't much matter because we have to rebuild a lot of the offense and some old son of a bitch WR wouldn't have helped us all that much. Our suck fest offense line and lack of consistent running game is a big part of the problem. Can't pull monies out our ass we don't have and overpay someone for a seasons rental.Odds are that no one will beat Seatle in Seatle so what's the difference.If we make the playoffs and show well,I will satisfied with 2013.

 

To your point, from what I was looking at at the end of September, I am already satisfied with the season. The only thing that would make my head explode is if we lose out.  Beating Seattle in Seattle will be highly difficult, but it's not impossible. Once we add a few pieces, and especially a game-breaking talent at WR or two from the 2014 draft, perhaps the ticket to the dance will come via Charlotte next year.



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 10:40 AM

We got what we got and also have what we have.Doesn't much matter because we have to rebuild a lot of the offense and some old son of a bitch WR wouldn't have helped us all that much. Our suck fest offensive line and lack of consistent running game is a big part of the problem.Look for wide reciever ugrades next year in the draft. Can't pull monies out our ass we don't have and overpay someone for one seasons rental.Odds are that no one will beat Seatle in Seatle so what's the difference.If we make the playoffs and show well,I will satisfied with 2013.

     Yep, from where we were at the beginning of the season just being relevant right now and making the playoffs is a great step. Of course I want us to keep going and once we get in who knows what will happen. No one believed the Ravens would win the SB last year. As far as our running game goes our oline is the biggest reason we are struggling there. We get NO push whatsoever. Earlier in the year before injuries we were at least adequate. I know Rivera said Chandler iss till starting but I hope that Scott gets in and he and Hartsock rejuvenate our running game which would immediately help our offense. Like you said no point in whining about WR's we didn't draft or whatever. What's on our roster right now is what we are going into the playoff race with. Gotta maximize it as best we can



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 10:43 AM

I think it's funny that people think WR is the problem.

 

If Cam had more time to throw it wouldn't matter.

 

Games are won and lost at the line of scrimmage. RG - RT will do wonders for the offense.

 

Lets be for real JOAT, the O-line (esp. Bell) has had problems this year to say the least, but a part of the problem has still been Cam not getting out the ball fast enough. or stepping back from the pocket as opposed to stepping into the pocket (like suggested by Gruden).  Not trying to be too critical of Cam (and nitpick him all day), because I can't see what he sees from his perspective, but I have to believe that some part of that problem has to be because his WRs have not gotten the necessary separation, or don't have the  savvy  to help Cam out (get that separation, or come back to the ball) when Cam gets into a jam.

Not to mention the flat out drops on key (mainly third) downs, when Cam has gotten them the ball. 

 

Like I said, i know our O-line hasn't been the best, but their have been key lost opportunities when receivers haven't stepped up. That's why I have been entertaining myself watching YT videos of prospects. Furthermore, my philosophy is to build a line in FA with proven vets.



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 10:51 AM

Josh Gordon was never available, anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.  Richardson sucks, thats why they got rid of him.  Gordon is their top offensive player, they never had intentions on trading him.



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 10:54 AM

I think it's funny that people think WR is the problem.

If Cam had more time to throw it wouldn't matter.

Games are won and lost at the line of scrimmage. RG - RT will do wonders for the offense.


I thought these threads would end when several posters pointed out that a WR may help some in the passing game a great O-line vastly improves every facet of our offense.


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